Let’s also be realistic about this, if something happens, you will be named in the lawsuit, doesn’t matter if you did your job correctly or not. After you are named in the suit you need to be able to prove that you did your job properly and show that you are not liable. There is no way of doing this where the insurance company is not going to name you in a suit, shotgun approach, pull the trigger and see who ends up in the line of fire and who can get out of the way. Need to make sure you are covering what is required in NFPA 25 and be very careful about how and/or if you provide any other information. Anything you put in writing will be used against you! If you feel something needs to be mentioned, which some things I think we should make note of make sure you write up as a note that is outside the scope of your inspection and write almost as a question - At time of inspection, we noticed this _______, it may be prudent to have this area reviewed by an engineer. Do not give an opinion on the matter nor a recommendation on how to fix the issue, unless they provide correspondence requesting your expertise on the matter, even then be careful. The reality is that anything to do with sprinklers is just as much about mitigating liability as much as it is about saving lives, if someone can find you at fault they will.
On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 1:42 PM Ron Greenman <[email protected]> wrote: > Broken hangers you're looking for. Painted sprinklers you're looking for. > Leaking pipes you're looking for. Essentially, you're just looking for what > 25 says to look for and only what you can see from the floor. As soon as > you question the layout or the design criteria, you have stepped outside > your certified area of expertise and have taken on the role of layout > technician and/or PE. At that point, you might as well question whether the > structure is adequate to support the system, whether it can tolerate a > likely seismic event, or if the building itself can withstand the impact of > a fully fueled 767 crashing into it. And what about that unsprinklered > munitions factory? What's up with that? > > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 11:42 AM Bob Caputo <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Read section 1.1.3 of NFPA 25. You’re inspecting what is there for wear >> and tear purposes. You are not verifying the design or installation of any >> system >> >> >> Bob Caputo, CFPS >> *President* >> >> *American Fire Sprinkler Association* >> p: 214-349-5965 ext124 >> w: firesprinkler.org >> <https://www.facebook.com/firesprinkler.org/> >> <https://twitter.com/afsa/status/1039528345367732224> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/american-fire-sprinkler-association-afsa-/> >> <https://www.instagram.com/firesprinklerorg/> >> >> *Train a safer, more efficient workforce.* >> >> By enrolling your employees in the AFSA Apprenticeship Training Series >> for Sprinkler Fitters >> <https://www.firesprinkler.org/WWW/Education/Apprentice_Training/WWW/Education/Apprenticeship_Training.aspx?hkey=e88ef09e-d74c-407f-abcd-995aff866149>, >> you will reap the benefits of a qualified, professional installation crew. >> Well-trained employees will work smarter, increasing your company's >> productivity and, in turn, its profits. Learn more >> <https://www.firesprinkler.org/WWW/Education/Apprentice_Training/WWW/Education/Apprenticeship_Training.aspx?hkey=e88ef09e-d74c-407f-abcd-995aff866149> >> . >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 10:35 AM Brandon Bridgford <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> How do you approach unprotected areas in regards to ITM and NFPA 25. I >>> know there was a discussion in the past regarding inspecting a system as >>> is, rather than writing up deficiencies that have to do with system design. >>> I have been told that this can open up more liability if you are not >>> inspecting all design elements (i.e. density, hazard levels, etc.) >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> Brandon >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________ >>> SprinklerForum mailing list: >>> >>> https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> [email protected] >> >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> SprinklerForum mailing list: >> >> https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> [email protected] > > > _________________________________________________________ > SprinklerForum mailing list: > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > [email protected] -- Thank You Brett Peters PFPS Ltd (780) 777 0568 Sent From My iPhone
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