I understand the requirements and limitations of 25. But let me ask this. If 
the inspector notices and obvious problem that is outside of 25 and does not 
report it. If a fire occurs that is caused or exacerbated by the problem that 
he noticed but did not report, what liability does he have.   
  

  
As a PE, if I notice a dangerous condition and do not reported, I can be held 
liable.   
  
  
  
  
Todd Williams     

  
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
  
Stonington, CT
  
860-608-4559
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
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> On Dec 22, 2024 at 7:57 PM,  <Matthew Willis1 
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>  Guys, this is a losing battle with Mike. He vents about how crappy our jobs 
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>  Mike, since our industry is so bad, and you are clearly making bank with 
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> From:  Bob Caputo  <[email protected]>
>   Sent:  Friday, December 20, 2024 2:41 PM
>   To:  Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers  
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>    Caution:    This email originated from outside of the organization.    DO 
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>    Read section 1.1.3 of NFPA 25.    You’re inspecting what is there for wear 
> and tear purposes. You are not verifying the design or installation of any 
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> On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 10:35 AM Brandon Bridgford  <[email protected] 
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> > How do you approach unprotected areas in regards to ITM and NFPA 25. I know 
> > there was a discussion in the past regarding inspecting a system as is, 
> > rather than writing up deficiencies that have to do with system design. I 
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