Todd,
Here in Texas, care facilities and some group homes require a state license. 
The state licensing agency sometimes have special requirements regarding fire 
protection that are more than required by the local AHJ. 
You should check if a license is required for your group home and if another 
approving agency is involved. 
Rick Matsuda

> On Jan 15, 2025, at 8:59 AM, Fpdcdesign <[email protected]> wrote:
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> 
> Has anyone run into whole house batteries that they have asked to connect to? 
> At some point, we will.
> 
> Todd G Williams, PE
> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
> Stonington, CT
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>> On Jan 15, 2025 at 9:57 AM, <Bcaputo> wrote:
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>> Neither NFPA 13D nor IRC P2904 requires a pump to meet NFPA 20 requirements 
>> or listing (other than the same electrical UL listing for every electric 
>> appliance). As noted, there could be a local amendment related to care 
>> facilities; however, until we get into NFPA 13R and/or NFPA 13 applications, 
>> no such requirement exists.
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>> Bob Caputo, CFPS
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>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2025 7:20 AM
>> To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers 
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>> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: 13D generator requirements
>>  
>> Todd,
>>  
>> A good question for local Fire Chief and or AHJ.
>>  
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>>  
>> Regards,
>> G. Tim Stone
>>  
>> G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC
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>> From: Fpdcdesign <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2025 7:45 AM
>> To: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] 13D generator requirements
>>  
>> I am working on a group home, which by all of the Code analysis, requires a 
>> standard 13D system. They propose to install a pump and tank system. Would a 
>> back up power supply be required for this? I have never been asked about it 
>> but can’t find much that addresses it. 
>>  
>> Todd G Williams, PE
>> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
>> Stonington, CT
>> 860-535-2080 (ofc)
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>> 860-608-4559 (cell)
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