On 1 July 2011 13:54, Stefane Fermigier <[email protected]> wrote: ...
> And by the companies who are members of this project. Companies are *not* members of projects. People are that's the whole point. > I'm starting to wonder why you keep forgetting this simple fact. I'm not forgetting anything. This is the way *all* ASF project work. It is fundamental part of the way we do things. As a project mentor it's my job to communicate that. >>> Question 2: are you a "volunteer" on this project ? >>> >>> My answer: I'm not. I'm paid to work on this project. >> >> I am a volunteer. > > I'm speaking about people who are contributing to the project (code base). So my time in mentoring this project towards sustainability is worthless? My time working towards raising awareness of this project is worthless? Maybe you think it is worthless, but if this project makes it to be a TLP and your company reaps the rewards of third party contributions as a result I suspect you'll have a different view in the future. To get there you need to adopt the successful model developed here at the ASF and engaged with by many companies that have a considerably higher investment in ASF projects than you do. The model works. It's not perfect and it sometimes evolves. If you ant to try and have this specific part of it evolve then take it to the wider community. > 1. You seem to be your own employer (with another partner), so you're once > again playing with words. My employment status and the little you know about it has no bearing on this discussion, I have an employer and they pay for my time. Why are you so much better than everyone else around here? (rhetorical question) ... >> It is standard practice across the ASF to *not* provide follow links. > > Standard by written nowhere, as far as I can tell (and Google). It's true that the ASF can be poor at formally documenting things, we tend to rely on precedent and experience, that's why we have mentors. To help guide you in the way to succeed as an ASF project. http://markmail.org/search/list:apache+link+nofollow http://markmail.org/search/list:incubator+link+nofollow "sponsor logo and link ('nofollow' at the Bronze level) on the ASF" http://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html I'm done arguing. I've stated my position as a mentor, as has Bertrand. A sensible proposal has been made that Bertrand has explicitly supported (and I implicitly support by not objecting to it). If the community agrees with you then the community need to take this up on [email protected] - if the majority of the community is happy with the proposal then this discussion is pointless. Ross
