On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Stefane Fermigier <[email protected]> wrote: > On Jul 1, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: >> ....I am saying that employers do not fund the project. > > YES WE DO. Stop denying the reality. This is not the country of the Care > Bears. An stop playing on the words. Just because we don't give money to the > ASF doesn't mean we don't fund the project. > >> Nobody funds an ASF project. > > As I wrote, we do....
Ok, so your company spends money to pay some of its employees so that they can contribute to Stanbol. That's very cool, and it deserves credit for that, based on true facts and in a fair way compared to other contributors. Simply listing Olivier as a Nuxeo employee on the Stanbol team page would be a nice recognition, don't you think? He's doing a terrific job in Stanbol, so making the association should make whoever's spending money to fund him happy. Now, from the ASF's point of view we dont' care about how and where your company spends money. We care about Olivier doing a terrific job, but we won't give more power or more recognition to him or his employer than to the lone independent developer who's also doing a terrific job in Stanbol and financing that himself. That's why we say "we don't care how much company or org X is investing to support people to work on Apache projects". We care about the people who do the work, give them credit, we're happy to indicate who they're working for if they want, but that's pretty much it. http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X/CREDITS.txt is IMO a good example of crediting people and companies based on true facts, without mentioning any monetary amount or lines of code etc. - somebody donated something cool to the project, Cocoon gives them credit, that's it. People who know about the project or study it will find out how much value each part and each contributor bring. The problem with links to companies without a nofollow attribute is that ASF sponsors don't get that below a certain sponsoring level (see http://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html) so I believe (and I think Ross agrees, so that's two Stanbol mentors) that it's not fair to give that to contributors to a project. Hope this helps clarify things. -Bertrand
