On Jul 1, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:

> On 1 July 2011 11:38, Stefane Fermigier <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 1, 2011, at 12:20 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Stefane Fermigier <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 1, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> ... One way of crediting employers without
>>>>> having to create a whole raft of red tape is have a page on which
>>>>> committers can optionally add their employers details (with nofollow
>>>>> links)
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah right. This is absolutely unacceptable for me.
>>> 
>>> The nofollow attribute you mean? I absolutely agree with Ross here,
>>> and as an Incubator PMC member I will not allow links to companies on
>>> the Stanbol website unless they have a nofollow attribute.
>> 
>> Is this a rule or just an arbitrary decision ? Why didn't you mention it 
>> when advocating moving the project to Apache ?
> 
> As we've tried to communicate, it a rule with solid reasoning behind
> it.

With "solid" cargo-cult reasoning, as per my previous response.

And it's not a rule since it's not documented.

> Even ASF sponsors don't get a follow link.

That's a different issue.

> As for it being mentioned during the discussions about moving to the
> ASF I was not involved, but I will observe that:
> 
> a) this is well documented across the ASF, it's lists and it's press
> releases your Champion cannot be expected to anticipate every possible
> issue that might come up. Partners are expected to do their own due
> diligence

Once again, where is this supposed "rule" documented ?

> b) there was a period of discussion during the proposal phase in which
> these issues could have been raised by anyone on the project (I don't
> expect anyone to think of all possible issues in advance though - it's
> just I find the accusatory tone of the above sentence quite offensive,
> even though it is not aimed at me)

Once again, where is this supposed "rule" documented ?

> c) In the proposal document, which you presumably helped draw up,
> there is a section on "Known Risks". One of the sub-sections is "An
> Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand". In this section the
> Stanbol proposal says "The brand is not what makes the difference for
> the IKS team, the motivation is the opportunity to build and grow a
> community." If the brand is not important then a "nofollow" link is
> not an issue, you are free to write anything you like that conforms to
> the trademark rules, on your own website.

We're not talking about the Apache Brand here. We're talking about PageRank. 
Completely different thing.

  S.

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