On 8/9/11 8:01 PM, Matthew Wild wrote: > On 9 August 2011 20:19, Peter Saint-Andre <stpe...@stpeter.im> wrote: >> On 8/9/11 4:59 PM, Matthew Wild wrote: >>> On 9 August 2011 18:53, Peter Saint-Andre <stpe...@stpeter.im> wrote: >>>> I've had several conversations recently with folks who indicate that >>>> they'd like a presence extension for what we could call communication >>>> context -- basically a machine-readable version of some of the strings >>>> that go into the <status/> element. Examples might include: >>>> >>>> 1. in-a-meeting (could be IRL or virtual) >>>> >>>> 2. on-mic (for audio chat) >>>> >>>> 3. on-camera (for video chat) >>>> >>>> 4. disconnected (cf. XEP-0198 when the stream hasn't been resumed yet) >>>> >>>> 5. something like "engaged IRL, can't communicate" (similar to but >>>> broader than parent-over-shoulder, e.g. things like being on stage) >>>> >>> >>> >>> I'm not convinced I see any of the use-cases except for 4, which I >>> think would be very useful :) >>> >>> Keen to see a spec, which might enlighten me as to the others. >> >> Yes, spec to follow. >> >> I know that Openfire used to have automated integration with Asterisk so >> that if you accepted a voice call, your presence would automatically >> change to "On the Phone". On the WebEx team we do something similar, >> although the magic string is "In a WebEx Meeting". I don't know if any >> voice and video clients currently do something similar, but the Jitsi >> team was keen on this a while back for their Jingle integration. I've >> heard of use cases for "engaged IRL" but I will seek out the people who >> pinged me about it to double-check. >> > > That makes perfect sense, but I guess my mental block is... isn't that > what PEP is for?
I can't think of anything more appropriate for presence than communication context. As RFC 6121 says: Any extended content included in a presence stanza SHOULD represent aspects of an entity's availability for communication or provide information about communication-related capabilities. To my mind, PEP is for everything else -- tunes, activities, location, and other things that change more or less frequently than presence itself. Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/
