Very impressed with that response. I made a large mistake when I moved me from 
GB to live in France. I stopped getting MacWorld for about two years. When I 
realised I needed a Com. Mag I looked MacWorld up on the net and they were 
asking a �100.00 to send me the same mag here ( I do not read French so the 
publication on sale here is yes a reasonable price, yet no good to me!). So to 
cut a long story short. I got an American mag., Mac Addicts from the USA at a 
bargin price. I now have a few dilemmas to solve. The American language is 
sometimes as curious as the French. The language used to describe things
computer is often written up ( unlike this clear mail here) like it uses 
English yet of a content you never learned!  Also the free disks from any mag. 
I get now do not run on the software OS I run most of the time, which is not 
OSX. So for a couple of years I have been well out of the loop and the computer 
world of Best fruit has gone and developed the G5 duel and the G5 single. Gone 
all FireWire and USB and all sorts of thing that had I kept up with the mag. I 
would understand. Now its like getting a plastic kit from your best Uncle for 
Christmas only to discover there will never be any instructions for
construction!
The biggest dilemma is living in France. I have been in Mac shops over here 
were I felt I had entered a museum. All the things in the museum were still 
boxed up and were for sale ... and at unreasonable prices! I also found that 
not many people know very much about computing here. It a bit like living in 
among  a world of Dixon's assistants.

You see I remember the feeling of being power king when I got the StarMax, alas 
a fading memory now. I also recall Mosaic. In fact we got 'Max cos our LCIII 
was not up to it much! I am glad to know it was a follow on from and into 
Netscape, which is what I started with and still use!

I will try out the one of these options when the machine which is my next 
torture subject when it comes back from its warrantee doctor in the USA. Long 
story to do with buying decent stuff, which they do not sell in France and will 
not send you from GB cos this is a foreign county, yet the States do not care, 
probably cos they think they own the world already! ????????

Its a G3 tower B&W @ G4/600MHz with 1GB memory, 80 GB HD, orange micro2+2 
Firwire/usb PCI and a few other bits inc. the Pioneer super drive DVD/CD read 
and write, Zip. I intend to run Panther or better. Its good for me cos it 
utilises my serial and new USB stuff. I can use my Trinitron  Multi scan screen 
200sx which is a saving?
However, the thing arrived, hey this is Sunday and Sunday reading for a laugh 
eh!, and I plugged it in and got the BSSS, Bang, sparks, smoke and smell. Yes, 
you computer buffs will have instantly worked out the voltage switch on this 
model is not as in NOT automated and was set on uncle same juice still!
Since then I have learned surgery, trying to fix it with the most excellent 
help of the technician and the sending of a replacement transformer. I am a 
first time surgeon. Although 'we' got it running and loaded with OSX the patent 
was terminal and beyond this particular trainee surgeons skills so its gone 
back.

In the mean time I am still on my all in one G3 and my 'Max. The G3 is a pain 
cos its CD reader is fussy about what it will read, and is a pain cos there is 
no copy facility. Whereas the MAX CD reads anything. It is often like having 
ones feet on two logs in the water and nothing you can do is going to stop them 
drifting apart with one of you feet on one of each of the logs!

Anyway. Ho hum.

All the best
Have a nice weekend.
Michael and thanks for the info!



"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:

> Time for a short history lesson for Michael...  :-)
> In the beginning there was a text only message service that was called 
> ARPANET which the government linked with universities to form an internet of 
> communications in case of nuclear war. Dr. Cerf developed a way of putting 
> images onto this network of computers and the World Wide Web was born.
>
> To see these images, you needed a special piece of software called a browser. 
> The first was a university development called MOSAIC and it was open source 
> and free. From MOSAIC came NETSCAPE.  Not to be pushed out of the browser 
> wars, Mr. Bill and his friends at Redmond Washington decided THEY needed to 
> own the browsers so they developed their own version of MOSAIC and called it 
> Internet Explorer. Both NETSCAPE and IE went through many variations. 
> Netscape was purchased by AOL but never utilized. The main code of NETSCAPE 
> was still open source and developers decided to add to the code and called it 
> MOZILLA.
>
> Because of all the different programmers in open source, NETSCAPE, MOZILLA 
> and IE all became very large programs. A European company wrote a smaller 
> code version of a browser and called it OPERA. It does all the other browsers 
> do, with less code.
>
> MOZILLA has made their code smaller also, and now has released it as FIREFOX. 
> Unfortunately, FIREFOX does not run on OS9 or below, only with OSX and 
> Windoze.
>
> OSX also has it's own built in browser, SAFARI, which is quite good, but 
> occasionally not recognized by some web pages (which I have personally found 
> were designed with Microsoft Front Page and other MS products... Hmmmm).
>
> You can download OPERA from www.opera.com, FIREFOX from www.mozilla.org and 
> NETSCAPE from www.netscape.com.
>
> Any questions?
>
> Ken Martin
> ==================
> Michael wrote:
>
> Wooooh, hold up a moment. If I gave the imprison I am a expert in any way
> when it comes to bits and pieces to do with computing I am
> sorry for that. I am not. I know what I do and have done, yet joining the 
> group
> here is to learn more. Opera and firefox sound like a
> singer and a helicopter, yet I can guess they have something to do either
> hardware of software!???
> They dedicated the Mac books to me.....  for Dummy's!
>
> The situation here is that I have OSX on my blue and white all in one G3 not
> tower. However I can never be bothered to get out of
> Classic mode!  However, After Yule I will be going over to OSX as Panther as 
> my
> more souped up G3, that will come back a G4 , and all
> the 'modern' things most people have had for ages like DVD and a burner as a
> superdrive etc.
> I will then go to OSX on the G3 as well. Kind of forcing it as a decision!  
> The
> StarMax 4000/200 gets retired from internet service
> and becomes a drawing machine, one only needs to draw so fast!
> Next I also have to contemplate connecting them all together. That is the two
> G3's one running as a G4, and the 'Max. This list will
> probably here form me next year then, ha!
>
> I have been with Macs since the classic came out, that wonder with a floppy. 
> Out
>  of all of the new computers we upgraded to in our
> business days the StarMax has been the most bullet proof machine I have. It
> seems hardly ever to complain whatever I torture it with.
> If It can not do it it just tells me to sod off!
>
> And yes I really am trying to find an exceptable alternative to ever having to
> use Microsofts Explorer.
>
> Opera or Firefox........... tell me more!
>
> All the best
> Michael
>
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