Unfortunately, kde2 wasn't available as a "release" until after storm 
"hail" was.  Hence, I believe, the lack of it's presence in "hail".
And remember, many of those first mandrake 7.2 boxes contained 
"kde2" but it was really a somewhat messed up/unstable 
"kde1.9.whatever".  That p.o.ed alot of people who bought it 
thinking it was "ready" when it wasn't.

On 7 Dec 00, at 16:36, Chris Thompson wrote:

> At 03:24 PM 12/7/2000 -0800, you wrote:
> 
> >The only distro that supports CD-R(W) out of the box is Mandrake. The only
> >distro that supports Ultra66 out of the box is Mandrake (actually, maybe
> >SuSE does now too). Mandrake prides itself on being bleeding edge. If you
> >want to live on the edge of the razor, Mandrake is the distro for you. Not
> >all distros share in Mandrake's philosophy. Other's actually like to QA
> >features before implementing them "out-of-the-box". Comparing Storm to
> >Mandrake is like comparing Apples to Oranges.
> 
> Debian supports UDMA/66 (are we talking about that or a specific card 
> here?) out of the box provided that you use the right boot disk.  IIRC, 
> Storm does this, too.
> 
> If we aren't talking about UDMA/66, please just ignore this message.
> 
> For what it is worth, I installed Mandrake a while back and really liked 
> the dist.  It is a little more bleeding-edge than I'd like but Storm is not 
> bleeding-edge enough.  I really wanted UDMA/66, Xfree 4.0.1, and KDE 2 
> support right out of the box.
> 
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