Vic, The JSF Expert group includes :
Specification Lead Ed Burns Sun Microsystems, Inc. Craig R. McClanahan Sun Microsystems, Inc. Expert Group Aligo, Inc. Apache Software Foundation BEA Systems Bayern, Shawn Bergsten, Hans Berkovitz, Joseph Bogaert, Mathias Borland Software Corporation Carapetyan, Pete Developmentor Documentum, Inc. Droplets, Inc. EDS Fujitsu Limited Geary, David Hewlett-Packard IBM ILOG IONA Technologies PLC Lazarus, Eric Macromedia, Inc. Mettu, Kumar Nash, Michael Netdecisions Holdings United Novell, Inc. Oracle SAS Institute Inc. Siemens AG Strachan, James Sun Microsystems, Inc. Zukowski, John A. That's a fairly representative sample of the industry, so I think we can definitely conclude that JSF != Sun either. If you don't think JSF is the right technical direction, then that's one thing, but you are undermining your argument by making this about licensing and Sun. Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]