--- Sgarlata Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 7:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text
> > > However, at this time, we have a Struts-el taglib in circulation. We
> > > even have a Struts-faces taglib in the wings. We've definately
> reached
> > > the point where the JSTL has to sink or swim on its own. If the
> > > Community wants to use the tags, then we are bound to facilitate
> that
> > > any way we can. Standards are essential, but community-building is
> the
> > > Apache prime directive, and a large segment of our community is
> still
> > > locked out of the JCP JSTL standard.
> >
> > It would be neat to build tags that extend JSTL functionality to fill
> in
> > gaps left by the standard.  Let the JSTL do the heavy lifting and add
> on
> > as necessary.
> 
> I think this is the mandate of the taglibs-unstandard tag library, which
> is
> still in the sandbox.  

I was referring more to something like changing <html:link> into an
extension of <c:url> that supports references to Struts actions.  In
general, adding Struts support to the standard tags.

> I like the tags I see there a lot, particularly
> <un:instanceOf> and <un:invoke>, although I think the tags could
> definitely
> use some work.  The documentation is awful and last time I looked
> <un:invoke> couldn't invoke methods with parameters (it could only
> invoke
> methods without parameters).  I would love to see some of the power of
> Velocity put into JSP taglibs, like the ability to use the EL-like
> syntax to
> invoke methods.  Of course if I really want that I should probably just
> use
> Velocity, huh? ;)
> 
> Of course at a certain point you have basically eliminated the advantage
> of
> removing scriptlet code because your JSP tags are so sophisticated, but
> in
> my opinion the JSTL is a lot easier to use than scriptlets because it's
> easier to get at things in the pageContext, request, etc. and on the
> presentation tier you often don't care about data types.

I couldn't agree more.

David

> 
> Matt
> 
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