When I need to drill holes at an odd angle (into stone or an immovable object) 
I have made a drill guide in hard wood or composite such as worktop laminate. I 
clamp the laminate firrmly at the required angle on my drill press and drill a 
hole in it. To start a hole at a shallow angle, you can use a centre drill or 
countersink at 90 degrees just to break into the surface, then set up the 
correct angle. The hole must be a clearance hole for the stone drill. If the 
drill has a narrower shank than its tip you could make a through hole big 
enough for the shank and a shallow concentric hole just deep enough to take the 
tip (I haven't actually done this as I use old metal drills rather than masonry 
drills, but I think it would work). I mark the surface with two lines crossing 
at the centre of the hole, one being horizontal while in the drill press, so it 
is at right angles to the hole. I continue these lines onto the sides of the 
laminate so I can see them when it is turned upside down.
 I mark the stone with two corresponding lines, crossing where I want the hole, 
in-line and at 90 degrees to the hole axis.
 Then insert the drill bit in the hole in the laminate, transfer the laminate 
to the stone, face down, clamp it so the lines correspond, and attach the drill 
chuck to the bit (I'm not sure if you need to support the weight of the drill, 
but it would seem sensible). Depending on the accuracy and depth needed, you 
may need to drill as far as you can with the laminate in place, then remove the 
laminate and use that hole as a guide for the rest of it.

Something I'm planning to do but haven't yet done, to secure a sculpture to its 
plinth, is to drill two or more holes at different angles into both. A deep 
hole in the dial, shallower in the plinth. Then, stainless steel pins could be 
put in the deep holes, the sculpture/dial moved to the correct position, the 
pins should drop down into the shallow holes and hold the dial. The only way to 
get it off would be to turn the whole thing upside down. To drill the holes, 
I'd make two jigs by clamping two pieces of laminate and drilling right through 
them at skew angles. Has anyone tried this? Glue would be simpler but too 
permanent for the sculpture I have in mind. I used a similar method to hold the 
gnomon of the dial I showed at the BSS Exeter conference last year.

Chris
51.4N, 1.3W



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Alexei Pace 
  To: Frank King 
  Cc: sundial@uni-koeln.de 
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 9:10 AM
  Subject: Re: Multignomon Sundial


  Good morning,
  the only time I need to drill holes at an angle was through wood.
  That can be done with a common drill press (ie still having the drill point 
vertically downwards), however you angle upwards the material to drill into at 
the appropriate angle.  Also it has to be secured properly otherwise the drill 
bit tends to 'slip' especially at very shallow angles.


  Best regards


  Alex


  On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Frank King <frank.k...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

    Dear Hannes,

    Your problem is turning into a bed of nails...

    > ...the dial I had in mind would be vertical
    > and facing south-east...

    That makes the problem more interesting!

    > ... I can see no way, with my limited abilities,

    > to get the angles of all those gnomons right.
    > Any ideas?


    I imagine that all your gnomons are going to be
    the same.  If you can get ONE right you can get
    all the others right!  Here are two questions:

     What kind of gnomon you would use if you were
     making a conventional dial with ONE gnomon?

     How would you would attach it to the dial?

    You seem to want some kind of rod gnomon.  You
    can attach that either by drilling a hole or by
    making up some kind of mounting.

    It is very difficult to drill a hole that isn't
    perpendicular to the surface being drilled.  It
    is probably easier to make some kind of mounting.

    You calculate the sub-style height in the usual
    way and then design a simple mount.  You then
    go into mass production.

    All the gnomons have to point in the same direction
    so you have to have the sub-styles parallel.

    There is one interesting constraint that you
    DON'T have...

    Your hour-lines don't have to radiate from the
    same point.  You could arrange your sundial on
    a tall thin column with the hour-lines running
    down, in order, from top to bottom, say from
    4h to 14h for a dial that declines south-east.

    More interesting still, you could have a
    24-sided post with the 6h hour-line on the
    side that faces east and the 12h hour line
    on the side that faces south and so on.

    I have a final piece of advice...

    If you really want to drill lots of holes
    at awkward angles you are going to need
    some kind of jig.  I cannot think of a
    good way to design this jig but I am sure
    there are other list members who can help.

    All the best

    Frank King
    Cambridge, UK


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