Chris Ilias wrote:
On 09-11-12 2:33 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 09-11-12 10:54 AM, Phillip Jones wrote:
You never answered the above question. If I google "short shrift", I
read that it means to give very little consideration/time. Yet in this
case, grippies were not included in the default theme on Mac /because/
SeaMonkey developers took the time and effort to consider Apple HIG. As
Rufus put it, followed "to the letter". :-) That's the opposite of
'short shrift'. (let alone the fact that you generalized it to "Mozilla
products")
As a matter of fact, if you do a search of bugzilla for any SeaMonkey
bugs with a comment containing all the strings "grippies apple hig",
you'll find the bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460699
"Make the default theme look better *on mac* " (bold added by me)
Whether or not you disagree with the decision is completely separate.
You presumed to know *why* grippies are not there.
I type in Grippies and there was showing least at 121 instances as far
back as 2006 on the subject. Its possible there are more under different
spellings and this just indicates number of times the subject came up
not the number of threads for each time. Other Possible spelling are
Grippies, grippies, gripies, Gripies, Griplets, Griplets, Griplets, and
so on. Based on subjects and threads in those subject I wouldn't be
surprised if there wasn't actually a 1000 post or more on the subject.
And it only goes back as far as 2006 there was likely post about before
then.
That's not my problem. You made the claim; it's your responsibility to
back it up. It's called a bibliography. If you're having trouble
narrowing your search, how about "grippies gone" or some variation of
that. The netscape.public.mozilla.* newsgroups have been archived since
around the year 2000 or before. If you cannot find instances in the time
you claim the mass outrage existed, that's a sign that you're wrong.
It's natural if you're upset about a change and find someone (maybe two)
who agree with you, to remember it as "mass outrage".
I found at least 121 entries for the subject. going back to 2006 as I
said That was just using on particular spelling. I don't believe use
"Fuzzy logic for these search. and at least 121 items is not one or two
Please post the URLs for at least 20 instances of this outrage you speak of.
I any event we mad our case
Again, that's beside the point. Don't claim "short shrift", when that's
not the case. More to the point, do some research before spreading
misinformation.
Have you ever used the mac version of SM/FF/TB? If no then trying to
would provide some education. As Phil Chee said it was left off because
of Apple's human interface guideline. which indicates that PC, UNIX, and
Linux versions have it. There have been other items over the years left
out over the years.
But this short Shrift thing is not just related to Mozilla only, It is
throughout Most Software. example in MS products Office 2003/7 have
more features than office2004/8 for Mac. Adobe Acrobat for PC has many
more Features than it Mac Counterpart despite getting it start on the Mac
I'm Tired, and you just don't get and never will. So enough.
--
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org
mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com
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