»Q« wrote:
In <news:ykudntlrs7kqrpbwnz2dnuvz_oedn...@mozilla.org>,
Rufus <n...@home.com> wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:42:17 -0800, Rufus wrote:
... but that's something you're going to have to explain to me -
all this "hired" vs "volunteer" stuff. Who's who, and how are
they doing what?
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/about/staff/
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/about/board/
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/about/
Momo All-Hands 2009 (Meeting of Mozilla Messaging employees in
Vancouver, BC, Canada in August 2009)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lhirlimann/sets/72157622051379888/
...how do they make money?..just what is it that they sell?
Advertising?..donations?..
Phil gave you links to read.
...yeah...I'm a bit more confused now that I've read them.
Seeing as all these apps are free, I've been assuming that
everyone is a "volunteer". So, just who is paying the "hired
guns", how do they make enough money on a free product to get
paid, and just why and what keeps it all free?
Dude, never heard of google?
State of Mozilla and 2008 Financial Statements
http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2009/11/19/state-of-mozilla-and-2008/
Checking in on Mozilla's Financial Health
http://ostatic.org/blog/checking-in-on-mozillas-financial-health
Much of the money Mozilla makes in profit comes from a Google
search deal.
http://www.itpro.co.uk/617977/mozilla-reliant-on-google-for-cash
Mozilla: Still too dependent on Google for revenue; Can it
diversify? http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=27670
I thought Mozilla was a open source project...did that stop?
No.
...then "why" are people getting paid?
..which was why I though everybody doing this stuff (other than Apple
with Safari) were "volunteers"...
Safari isn't open source, but large parts of it are. People get paid
to work on lots of F/LOSS projects.
Yes - that I understand. But I also understand that Apple does a lot of
other things which allow it to exist as a corporation. Just what else
is it that the Mozilla team do?
...ok, so now we're lead back to "code sharing" and "conspiracy
theories"...which is it?
How do we keep getting back here? I can't tell what conspiracy
theories you're talking about.
In that between Mozilla, Fire Fox, Goggle Chrome, Camino, Safari, et.
al. there are SO many things that look the same and/or function the
same. Which leads to the thought that many of these people are
obviously cooperating and collaborating.
My previous assumption was that only the Google and Apple teams were
"paid professionals" and that the SM team are all "volunteer
professionals" or "amateurs"...but if all pf these people are all
working together and following each other around...what's the big diff
between one set and the other then?
Mozilla "belongs" to Google? Or gets paid by them just because you
can navigate to Google with them? I still don't get it.
Philip gave you links to read.
...and I'm further confused by them...I don't don't get what this
"company" does to stay solvent. Other than act like an "all volunteer"
entity...that accepts money...
I remember that the only add-on I've put into SM was to make Google
my default search engine...so somebody got paid and it's built in now?
AFAIK, SeaMonkey doesn't generate any revenue. Remember that what
kicked off this part of the thread was Phil noting that SeaMonkey team
cannot afford to hire people.
Yes - and that's my point. Mozilla, Fire Fox, Goggle Chrome, Camino,
Safari, et. al. don't generate any revenue either - in that they are
give aways. In the case of Google and Apple, they have corporate
revenue streams and existing hires...so just what else does Mozilla-corp
DO that allows them to pay people, and why doesn't the SM team do that?
--
- Rufus
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