On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:58:28AM +0100, Newsbyte wrote: > Well, phillip, see my other post for your remarks, but I would wanna say > specifically one thing: > > "* I don't like <person> (frequently Ian)" > > Isn't true. I NEVER contend it's the person, as individual, that I dislike, > I dislike the actions and decisions a person takes, because it leads, and > has lead, to a virtual standstill in end-user usuability. Now, even that on > itself isn't that bad, because people make mistakes, but when one continues > for two years, it does become a question of when it is going to sink in that > maybe there is need to change things. > > Your defence of it being fast, is just the sort of non-reality check I'm > pointing at. Dude, how many people do you think have the ability of getting > a connection like that? It's not realistic to extrapolate your situation to > others, which are in a vast majority WAY less equiped and experience enough > problems just getting it running (see posts of noobs on slashdot or even on > the maillists).
30kB/sec down and 8kB/sec up is what he said. That's a standard 1024/128 broadband connection just about anywhere; most are faster. > > Maybe you haven't been hanging around long enough to remember, but I was one > of the first people that suggested a new testnetwork which could seriously > help in the development time in pinpointing problems...and yes, I've said > that several times, so you can call that whining, if you want, but it IS in > fact, a suggestion and an alternative - which some selectively remembering > dudes claim I never do or did - and a good one at that, because there was a > time we (at least Toad) agreed to it too. Do you here about it any longer? > Well, no, it's been put back in the freezer because it was prefered to play > with simulations that, as yet, didn't fullfill their promises neither. Well, you're not complaining about it at the moment, are you? Your recent posts mostly haven't talked about the test network. > > Ah man, all this shite about I don't contribute anything valuable is so > lame. That what gets incorporated is forgotten (like augmenting the htl a > year ago), and that what I propose in vain and hasn't been implemented is > deemed to be mere talk, because it hasn't proven itself. Well, duh. Augmenting the HTL? > > Certainly, I have become increasingly sarcastic, but it shows a lack of > understanding if you fail to see what is the cause of it. When you entered > the scene a year ago, when freenet was plunged into it's worst non-working > period ever, then you might have a sense that it has progressed a lot - > well, it hasn't. Not in the end-users viewpoint, anyway. Maybe for a coder, > like toad, things are different: he codes, sees the code change, implements > new things, so, in his perspective, things have become better...but IMHO, > that counts for not much, if the enduser can't benefit from it. That's not > putting a blame on the hard work of Toad, or saying 'I don't like <toad>', > as you seem to think, it's just the way it is. Saying "freenet sucks, it's gotten worse, it'll never get better", and implying that this is because of the people building it, is not helpful. Saying and implying it to newbies when we are particularly vulnerable due to our slow initial performance due to freenet taking a while to learn where stuff is is particularly unhelpful, and not compatible with being allowed to represent the project by having an @freenetproject.org address. -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.
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