Stefan:
 
> Was that easy enough?     <g>      :-)

Sure but how does it SOUND??
 
Who's the DECIDER in all this?  
 
The STUDIOS (i.e. Sony Pictures decides)?
 
Or, the HTReceiver guys (i.e. Onkyo decides)?
 
Maybe the Cable guys (i.e Comcast decides)?
 
Who did I leave out?
 
Mark Stahlman
Brooklyn NY
 
 
In a message dated 12/22/2010 4:20:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
st...@mail.telepac.pt writes:

newme...@aol.com wrote:

>Folks:
> 
>This is  one of the "standard" approaches to technical standards  
nowadays.   
> 
>Get everyone interested to step up and pay-to-pay, divide up  the issues,  
>hire a professional association manager (i.e.  Florencia Dazzi is with 
Assoc.  
>Mgmt. Solutions.), etc . . . and  give away the specifications.
> 
>The goal is to have something  for the home theater receiver DSP coders to 
 
>aim at (whereas back  when I was involved with IEEE 802 it was for the 
chip   
>designers).
> 
>The coders will make money selling  microcode, Onkyo et al will make  
money 
>selling receivers,  Holophone et al will make money selling microphones 
and  
>so  on.
>  
>

If the supposed "standard" is so  ill-prepared (for example, is Dolby "on 
board", or not?), I seriously  doubt that this attempt will fly. Up to 
now, there is no information to  judge anything. (I said this. Now I am 
much clearer on this, as we are  getting into the business discussion 
before the facts are there to discuss  anything...)

Of course, some people are watching this. I am certainly  not paying to 
be "3D audio member", for my part...      :-)

> 
>Clearly there needs to a HEIGHT addition to 5.1, since  3D video is the 
only 
> available NBT (Next Big Thing) for home  video.  The TVs are here and the 
 
>studios are ready to  rock-and-roll.  3D sports and music are a  
"no-brainer."
>  
>Btw, this is why I have been asking about Z-AXIS -- which seems  to  have 
>been MAG's keen interest all along -- on this list for  the past  year+.  
As 
>you might recall, the list has had  little to say.  <g>
>  
>

Right. But it was  certainly not only you, whatever is claimed.

Don't forget that there  have been attempts to include height information 
even into 7.1 and even  5.1, although time seems to be over for such a 
(bad?)  compromise.

> 
>Since there is apparently NO company with a  stake in Ambisonics, who will 
 
>pay-to-pay on behalf of  Ambisonics?  
>  
>

Maybe < we > just  declare a standard?

Fast track:

- Ambisonics up to 3rd order,  including mixed order systems
- Channel order, coefficients: Furse-Malham  system
- B format is included (soundfield recordings)
- "standard"  configuration (within the standard... ;-) could be 3rd 
order horiz. + 1st  order vertical, maybe 3rd order horiz./2nd order 
vert. for studio and  cinema use.
- Recordings in 3rd order (horiz. or "3D audio") can be  translated to 
5.1 configuration, of course losing a lot of  information.

Was that easy enough?     <g>   :-)

Obviously, several European institutions are actively  working on 
Ambisonics. IRCAM, BBC and Deutsche Telekom are just a few  examples, in 
different areas.

I am not sure that we would have to  wait to receive some start-up money, 
begging for  help.

Right?

Discussion obviously  desired...


Best,
Stefan
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