Hi
On 2 November 2012 03:54, Alexis Shaw <alexis.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For HRTF based sound, headphones work the best. The HRTF is the solution of
> the in-head effects.
>
Actually, you simply can't guarantee that. To even get close to
guaranteeing that it will work for the majority head tracking is
essential, especially with generic HRTF's. Even then, invidualised
HRTF's are needed to take it further and _still_ even with all this,
without the correct stimulation of other sound perception mechanisms
(chest cavity resonances etc) it can still fall down because this lack
is a cue to the brain that there is no real external sound field - so
it must be internal...
Dave
> On 2 November 2012 14:07, Stefan Schreiber <st...@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
>
>> Richard Dobson wrote:
>>
>> The same is true of stereo too. There are people who just don't hear
>>> stereo as stereo. If the response to "lack of perfection" is always "do
>>> nothing", nothing will be done. Alternatively, if you use those generic
>>> HRTFs, at least ~some~ people will be happy.
>>>
>>> BTW, the AES has just announced a project "AES-X212" to develop a file
>>> format for HRTF data; "The format will be designed to include source
>>> materials from different HRTF databases". See:
>>>
>>> http://www.aes.org/standards/**meetings/new-projects.cfm<http://www.aes.org/standards/meetings/new-projects.cfm>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard Dobson
>>>
>>
>>
>> The next and valid question is if stereo via headphones actually works so
>> well at all... (Many people have problems, such as in-head effects, lack of
>> perceived "real space", etc.)
>>
>> If you would fix these problems, then you could probably also reproduce
>> convincing binaural surround via headphones.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Stefan Schreiber
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 31/10/2012 16:38, Martin Leese wrote:
>>>
>>> Peter Lennox wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes but...why not simply release stuff for mobiles in a generic
>>>>> binaural -
>>>>> skip the uhj altogether?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please, what is this "generic binaural"?
>>>>
>>>> Everyone has an individual HRTF. If you
>>>> release binaural recording using a generic
>>>> HRTF then it will work for some and not for
>>>> others.
>>>>
>>>> There have been attempts to systemise HRTFs,
>>>> so that you set about four different parameters
>>>> to produce an individual HRTF, but they never
>>>> caught on.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>>
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'Ambisonics - Component Imaging for Audio'
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