Ah ok, so you are stumped if the playback system can only play back at a
16khz sampling rate, as it will always remove HF.
I didn't realise the restriction was there, i thought you meant just the
original file..

Good luck

Best

Steven

On Fri, 12 Aug 2022, 07:28 Junfeng Li, <junfeng.li.1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Steven,
>
> In my opinion, the main problem is the limitation of the playback system to
> 16/8kHz.
> No matter what we process before output, we have to downsample to 16/8kHz
> when playback. Therefore, the useful information in high frequencies is
> lost, which hampers the localization performance.
>
> Best regards,
> Junfeng
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 9:59 PM Steven Boardman <boardroomout...@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Fons
> >
> > It wasn't the up sampling i was hoping would produce a better result, it
> > was the down sampling of the hrtf i thought would be worse. At least then
> > it is less truncated ..
> > Of course i should of mentioned it was only a guess.
> > As far as spectral recovery, i was thinking more along the lines of
> > T-Design sampling the b-format (hopefully after a little upmixing to a
> HOA)
> > and applying the recovery to the T-Format directions, before converting
> > back to B-format, and then convolving..
> > Of course all another guess, and pointless if the OP is limited to a
> > sampling frequency of 16khz throughout, and hasn't even mentioned what
> > format the original is in. ;)
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 11 Aug 2022, 11:22 Fons Adriaensen, <f...@linuxaudio.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 10:29:12AM +0100, Steven Boardman wrote:
> > >
> > > > You may get a slightly better performance by up sampling the 8khz to
> > > > 44.1/48 before convolution with the hrtf.
> > >
> > > If the upsampling is any good it will not produce any signal above
> > > the original limit of 8 kHz. So this won't make any difference.
> > >
> > > > In the post production world we sometimes use 'spectral recovery'
> > > > algorithms like in Izotope RX, to regain high frequency content lost
> > from
> > > > remote recording sessions, with the likes of 'zoom'. This may get
> you a
> > > > little closer still.
> > >
> > > Unlikely. The 'recovered' HF content will not contain the original
> > > elevation cues. The only way this could help is in case the bandlimited
> > > signal appears elevated, adding some artificial HF may bring it back
> > > to horizontal where it probably should be. But the original info is
> > > lost anyway.
> > >
> > > One way to recognise a signal as coming from an elevated source
> > > could be to analyse the distribution of early reflections. But
> > > I doubt very much if this would be a practical solution.
> > >
> > > --
> > > FA
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