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You are so right, hacking code is something we have done for at least the last 30 years. This is not the same as being a hacker. I had some guys from southern Germany, hacking the code on a bulletin board that I was testing and introduced porno pictures. This is criminal and not a "practical joke". I could track them down to ISP, connection port and exact time. The ISP could clearly identify the connection and customer. I reported this vandalism to the ISP and police. To fix it, it took me 3 hours, so I forwarded a claim of $225. I also took another bulletin board, so this supplier lost business. So this is now a cracker that are hacking my code on the server? Crackers, hackers, virus constructors are not only giving Internet a bad name, they are causing millions of $$ in losses. Hakan At 03:00 PM 12/8/2002 -0800, you wrote: >On Sun, 08 Dec 2002 20:43:27 +0100, you wrote: > > > > >Well Steve, > > > >The crackers as you call them are calling themselves hackers and the > >last 8 years they have been identified as hackers. > >Indeed. I wonder if this clear line that Steve paints is not always >observed by all hackers, so that they *never* break in to others' >systems? The hacker with whom I spoke had, at one time, been one of >the world's more notorious crackers. Ultimately many of his >acquaintances and friends went to prison. But when I spoke to him he >was more or less a "hacker", as he had tended to have less disrespect >for systems and had ended up a more productive person. > >There may be "good" hackers who never break in to anyone else's system >or what some would *call* themselves "good" hackers (who might break >in but do no mischief beyond that) and "bad" hackers (who might do any >amount of mischief and who should be called crackers but are often >mixed with hackers by the press). > >I understand that the term itself (hacking) originally had zero >negative connotation, but I wonder if the line is always observed as >meticulously as the "good" hackers observe it, and whether all the >supposedly "good" hackers "never" break in to others' systems. > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Biofuels list archives: >http://archive.nnytech.net/ > >Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. >To unsubscribe, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
