Sorry for didn't follow up? Why you are fighting? For permit? Recently we were denied a permit for a solar carport, the chairwoman of the planning committee does not like solar panels. She thinks the blue polycrystalline panels are not just another new type of building materials!? You have to hide them on the roof and in the back. Not to be seem from the streets. She said that in a public hearing and tried to humiliate us in front of the participants, she and her atheistically taste are for the sake of the city!? We were not humiliated but surprised, she needs to be re-educated to keep up with social or scientific PROGRESS!
Same from the San Marino city, where a lot of million dollars houses! You can put solar system but in the back, not on the front that you can see from the street. Why? It's not acceptable if only some houses have the solar panels and some have not. It will not be in conformity and will decrease the property values in that area. I actually think it will increase the value of the property! And I know some construction companies are now building new and energy efficient houses with the option of solar systems, they are selling very well. It's a new commodity available in the market and consumers love the idea that they can lower the consumption of energy, build up their own power supply! I just don't get it? Why some governments can not see the benefits but the negative side of progree? Sometime you wish that all the approval processes can be handled by computers, not human! Unless there are perfect Christians and never make mistakes! Need a strong leader to lead the progress of alternative energy. For the farmers, the funding is a sign of approval to push the movement to the right direction. Losing the funding for the windmill is symbolic and financially devastating, because they will be discouraged. I shared the same feeling that we would rather move on the jobs and not wasting time to fight the governments! They treated us like enemies and it's unbelievable! Only few like Clintons or the Gores are pushing this agenda! Also we are talking about converting an old gas staion to a green station, and pumps to sell biofuel! We have to come up with the numbers to support the proposal, that how many population or cars in that city will need biofuel. Because it's in a commericial zone, we will have to deal with the same athestical standard as the same lady is in charge of the planning. The other planners were happy about the idea and suggested us to get funding from the environment department in the city hall. The feeling is mixed and I hope it's just the process for moving to a new era! But I do share the feeling that you have to spend so much time in dealing with them! We might have to go to media if the dragon lady persisted here! Legal system is not a perfect place to argue. In the present system of things, can only say Good Luck! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:41 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: From a local Group > --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Jon Fairbanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Why do you guys waste your time grumbling and BEGGING > > for hand outs and the goodwill of others? > > > > Get your stuff working...AND...cost effective...and > > show all those creeps you are right. > > > > Jonathan Fairbanks > > > > > LOL! It's the nature of the Beast, I guess. No one is allowed or > permitted to go into competition with the government favored > Businesses. > > It's a mutual back-scratching arrangement. The government subsidized > Businesses give large amounts of Campaign money to Politicians, and > the Politicians give huge subsidies to those who contribute well. > They actively support each others Monopoly by stonewalling any > applications for Permits. If you are not a Member of the Insider's > Club, you will not be allowed through the Bureaucratic Permit process. > > Putting together a viable Business Plan is no big deal, even without > subsidies. Getting past the Regulatory hurdles is nearly impossible. > > I probably need to add a Disclaimer here, that my position is not > unbiased. I've been trying for 5 months to get into Court, and can't > because I haven't exhausted all Administrative remedies. > Administrative remedies consist of sending in Affidavits, Complaints > and Demands, waiting 30 or 60 days and filing followup paperwork, to > discover that my initial papers were misplaced or lost, or have been > referred to another Department and/or must be resubmitted, etc etc > etc. > A Public Service announcement in a Newspaper advising the Public to > be sure to have any dealings with certain individuals written and > signed under penalty of Perjury as the subject is a proven Liar, > seemed to stir a bit of action. My major complaints are to the > Supervisory level of a State Department now, and I have documented > evidence of Fraud and Conspiracy waiting to be filed against a lower > level Official on a personal basis. > > I am accumulating evidenciary documents against a Judge and a > Prosecutor for Fraud, Perjury and Civil Rights violations. > > What most People consider to be Laws to be obeyed, are seen as simple > guidelines that can safely be ignored on an arbitrary basis if you > have the proper 'connections'. To my dismay, I have found that to be > an accurate assumption. > > Enough of the ranting, > Motie > Who would much prefer to be working on research and development of > renewable alternative energy Projects. > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/