Although you say it in a somewhat different way, I think we generally agree in this matter. I also agree that we have a lot of background on this hydrogen but I am also hard pressed to find a way to use this to our benefit so far as well. There are some posts already that feel that it is not a probable solution and are exploring different ways of providing energy for our vehicular movement requirements. Our world as I see it today is better educated than one might think. I do not believe that Corporate or Political gains will be found in this direction without the "people" of this world today seeing it as a factual thing to do. At present, most do not. On another subject; Out of nowhere at a family get together last week, a discussion began about the small electric vehicles being sold today to the seniors. I am told that these are not golf carts but something more sophisticated. I am not yet familiar with them but was told that they will move quite briskly down the road. It was suggested by some in the conversation that these little vehicles, (electric), could replace the automobile for many. This idea was expanded upon in the discussion with suggestions by some that I only rarely, (once a week or so), need to go out on the freeways and the like to get somewhere I need to go. Their thoughts were simply to use the electric cart to go to the auto rental agency and get a gasoline car for the day similar to what many do at the other end of their airline flight. I was also amused at some of their logic. They expanded on the idea with justifications like no license fees, (they are presently out of whack in California today), no sales tax, no maintenance, no depreciation, probable reduced insurance costs because it would only be needed for the rental car, multiple people usage for an out of town event whereby others were going as well; 6 can travel for the same price as 1 or 2, etc.......... One of the people at the gathering was on the city council of a small town, (Gridley) and made the comment that these little vehicles were all over her town every day. She also stated that Gridley is an old town, (over 100 years), so it would not be uncommon to have a larger then usual amount of elderly living and moving around there. She also stated that she thought that these vehicles could do about 25 miles per hour as a top speed. Apparently she has seen many of them with things like patio umbrella's attached to them and was pleasingly amused by it. I am going to investigate this further and will let everyone knoiw what I find out. Herein lies a possible way to not only reduce gasoline and other fuel requirements for many and help solve the shortage and smog problems at the same time. These little devils are probably low voltage and solar panel charging may well be a possiblilty at the same time; (no load on the grid)..., a solar panel might be the new umbrella to keep the sun off of the occupants. I was also told that some of them have some foul weather protection systems available too. Interesting just where new idea's can come from isn't it?...... Bob
Hakan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bob, One thing is to close your mind to development, and completely other is to (mis)use a technology for political and corporate reasons. Hydrogen have been researched and used for around 100 years. We know a lot about hydrogen and therefore we can do quite good assessment of its suitability for the suggested new general application. It is very many problems that must be solved for this use and it is not "ready for use" yet. As well as you have to have an open mind, you must also react on the current presentation of Hydrogen as a "silver bullet" for our energy problems. It is not ready to assume that role and by doing this promotion, the effect is that the minds get closed on other viable and maybe better "ready for use" solutions. Hakan At 11:58 AM 7/3/2003 -0700, you wrote: ><snip> > >To all; > >Do not hold back on your opinions in these discussions. Just think back to >some past date when someone told you something that you didn't know and >you were so surprised that you commented; Boy, I would never have thought >of that, what an idea!! Off we go with another path that may well lead to >a new idea, process, or outright discovery. The big boys call them a >"THINK TANK"........We can do it too....... > >Bob Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Save on Coral Calcium. Get Better Health and Stronger Bones. Seen on TV http://www.challengerone.com/t/l.asp?cid-2805&lp=calcium2.asp http://us.click.yahoo.com/9gf46B/EfUGAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
