Sorry Chris, But the illegal invasion and occupation was not to remove Saddam from power. It was to get a better foothold in the middle east... WHERE THE OIL IS!!
That was the intent during the first Gulf War. The US succeeded to a small degree with bases in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. But the bigger picture now is to turn Iraq into the neutered puppy of the middle east where the handler has a big stick just in case someone has something to say about it (that would be the US.) Frankly, all sides have blood on their hands. fred At 06:02 PM 2/20/2004 +0000, you wrote: >Yep - the sanctions did kill a lot of people. too bad there wasn't >some kind of food for oil program that would have allowed the kind >baathists to care for the indigent of Iraq. > >Oh wait... there was. Gee, I wonder what happened to all that money >that Iraq got under the food for oil program. GWB must have used >halliburton connections to steal it..but it was UN administered... and >GWB he wasn't president for any of that time.... But as governor of >texas he was certainly able to hijack the oil for food moneys.... > >yeah - thats the ticket > >in case any of you have forgotten, Saddam actually did invade his >neighbors, and yes the US did support him (to the extent that we >provided 3% of his armaments during the iran/iraq war) aginst what we >viewed as a more serious threat, namely radical islamism (no that >isn't a typo). But when he moved against kuwait it didn't seem prudent >to do nothing, since he had a proven track record of aggression. so we >kicked him out of kuwait and then instituted sanctions if he violated >the ceasefire- which he did. Ideally we would have gone back in a year >or two later to enforce the cease fire terms, but by that time it was >a new adminisration so it didnt happen. had we done so there would >have been only a fraction of the deaths related to sanctions. > >But never forget that saddam could have ended the sanctions at any >time by simply keeping to his agreement, and he could have averted >starvation by not siphoning off the food for oil money. the blood is >on his hands. > > >--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Thursday, February 19, 2004, at 01:15 PM, the_maniacal_engineer > > >wrote: > > > > > > > When I first heard this it was about osama bin laden - a man who >wants ><snip> > > > > california state con...sti..tution... no wait - that was gay >activist > > > > mayor/judges.. > > > > > > > > > >Did they really kill millions? > > > > Nope. The US- and UK-backed sanctions against Iraq killed at least > > half a million children though, as intended. > > > > "In 1998, the UN carried out a nationwide survey of health and > > nutrition. It found that mortality rates among children under five in > > central and southern Iraq had doubled from the previous decade. That > > would suggest 500,000 excess deaths of children by 1998. Excess > > deaths of children continue at the rate of 5,000 a month. UNICEF > > estimated in 2002 that 70 percent of child deaths in Iraq result from > > diarrhea and acute respiratory infections. This is the result-as > > foretold accurately by U.S. intelligence in 1991-of the breakdown of > > systems to provide clean water, sanitation, and electrical power. > > Adults, too, particularly the elderly and other vulnerable sections, > > have succumbed. The overall toll, of all ages, was put at 1.2 million > > in a 1997 UNICEF report. > > > > "The evidence of the effect of the sanctions came from the most > > authoritative sources. Denis Halliday, UN humanitarian coordinator in > > Iraq from 1997 to 1998, resigned in protest against the operation of > > the sanctions, which he termed deliberate "genocide." He was replaced > > by Hans von Sponeck, who resigned in 2000, on the same grounds. Jutta > > Burghardt, director of the UN World Food Program operation in Iraq, > > also resigned, saying, "I fully support what Mr. von Sponeck was > > saying." > > > > "There is no room for doubt that genocide was conscious U.S. policy. > > On May 12, 1996, U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright was asked > > by Lesley Stahl of CBS television: "We have heard that half a million > > children have died. I mean, that's more than died in Hiroshima. And, > > you know, is the price worth it?" Albright replied: "I think this is > > a very hard choice, but the price, we think the price is worth it."" > > > > -- From: Behind the War on Iraq > > by the Research Unit for Political Economy > > Monthly Review May 2003 > > Research Unit for Political Economy is based in Mumbai, India. The > > group publishes the journal Aspects of India's Economy and a range of > > research publications in English and Hindi. > > http://www.monthlyreview.org/0503rupe.htm > > > > I suggest you read the whole report, it will certainly give you a > > very much clearer and less muddied picture than Chris Stratford has > > managed to do. > > > > Read this one too while you're at it: > > > > http://www.scn.org/ccpi/HarpersJoyGordonNov02.html > > Cool War: Economic sanctions as a weapon of mass destruction > > By Joy Gordon > > Harper's Magazine > > November 2002 > > > > Plenty more, but those should do for a start. > > > > >I hadn't thought of it that way before. > > > > Well don't start now! > > > > Best > > > > Keith > > > > ><snip> > > > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Biofuels list archives: >http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > >Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. >To unsubscribe, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Yahoo! 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