"bk":
We're discussing the use and misuse of "scientific research" to back a
claim that a certain fuel (natural gas) in a diesel engine is actually
"cleaner" in some ways, but may in fact pose a greater health risk,
from it's own emissions profile, than the original problem fuel
("diesel fuel")... not building a bridge, or chemical reactions.
The idea that you can have a scientific study, in any case, that
provides results that other researchers challenge as being flawed or
biased is hardly a new or unusual concept.
I can give you a set of numbers, to believe in on the topic, if you
wish, in fact, I did.
Keith was aware that the source was perhaps not as credible as it
appeared, and correctly posted this information. Other researchers
would get varying results on the same issue in any case, often in spite
of their best efforts and intentions to produce good quality, unbiased
data.
If you base your beliefs and decisions on one set of results only,
from one source, the one that by happy coincidence agrees with your
preconceived ideas of what you wanted to see (or what you perceived the
boss or client wanted to see), then have a happy life and go build
another "Galloping Gertie".
http://www.civeng.carleton.ca/Exhibits/Tacoma_Narrows/
But you may be quite disappointed or embarrassed, or out a lot of
money, time and effort, when someone stands up with some very good
research that perhaps refutes what you've been going with....and
hopefully they do that, and you accept it gracefully before you send
people across your engineering masterpiece that was all based on your
set of "facts".
(Not a flame, just defending my comments, sir)
Edward Beggs
On Monday, April 12, 2004, at 12:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Well sir, IMHO you're off on the wrong track from the get-go. In
> engineering, which is what we are discussing here, whats wanted are
> the facts and the numbers apertnant thereto. A "balanced view if the
> issue" might be approiate for writing an editorial, but for
> determining the specifics of home grown chemical engineering, you need
> to be able to sort the knowledge from the "information" so widly
> available. Chemistry doesn't care what you opinion is.
>
> yr hmbl svnt
>
> bk
> (a critisism, not a flame..)
>
>
>> Keith, I do thank you for this. As you know, I also strive for
>> accuracy
>> in the use of reports cited. In fact, I have been an instructor for a
>> course in information literacy, research methods and so on, at the
>> master's degree level, so this is an issue that is of great interest,
>> and I think should be discussed on the list.
>> (snip)>
>> So, when individuals, students, groups go looking for information, how
>> do they get a balanced view of an issue, if there is so much
>> official-looking and sincere-sounding material out there?
>>
> (big ol' snip)
>
>
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