"Sideshow - Nixon, Kissinger and the Secret Bombing of Cambodia", by William Shawcross, is an excellent source. "In Sideshow, journalist Shawcross presents the first full-scale investigation of the secret and illegal war the United States fought with Cambodia from 1969 to 1973, paving the way for the Khmer Rouge massacres of the mid-70s." 467 pages, Simon & Schuster (May 15, 1979), ISBN: 0671230700

The Chinese pledged to support the Khmer Rouge's
rivalry with the Vietnamese but recommended against
all-out war, knowing full well that Vietnam was in a
much better position to win the fight. The meeting
probably delayed an impending Cambodian assault on
Vietnam, but the Vietnamese interpreted it as another
sign of China's military support of an increasingly
dangerous Cambodia. "

"My enemy's enemy is my friend." Truly a morally bankrupt policy, and (thus?) a major plank in world realpolitik. There's no need to have any ideology or philosophy or anything else in common other than a shared enmity.

For another view of China, try "Fanshen - A Documentary of Revolution in a Chinese Village" by William Hinton. On his return to the US Hinton's copious notes and documentation for the book were impounded for 18 years, by the US Customs and then by Senator Eastland's Committee on Internal Security. This is an extraordinary book, there's nothing else quite like it. Highly recommended by Joseph Needham and many others. 637 pages, Monthly Review Press (1966), ASIN: B0006DEZZW

Best wishes

Keith


Hi Hakan ;

I admit that I don't really know the whole story, so
anyone please feel free to correct me.  I have many
Khmer friends,  and I discuss this with them often.
>From what I understand there were weekly flights to
Beijing for supplies and military strategists.

However (CS), this was only after a decade of secret
bombing by the US had smashed the country and killed
countless people..

Pol Pot And Kissinger - On war criminality and
impunity
http://www.zmag.org/zmag/articles/hermansept97.htm

and

The death of Pol Pot
http://www.wsws.org/news/1998/apr1998/plpt-a18.shtml

"It was here that Pol Pot, heavily influenced by the
Chinese Stalinists, devised the political perspective
of what was to become the Khmer Rouge--an extreme form
of Mao Zedong's eclectic mixture of Stalinism,
nationalism and peasant radicalism.

It is characteristic of the ideological falsification
produced by Stalinism that the label of Marxism has
been placed upon social and political phenomena which
have nothing whatsoever to do with the ideas of Marx,
Engels or Lenin.

Classical Marxism envisioned a new society,
democratically controlled by the working class, which
would take as its point of departure the highest level
of the productive forces developed under capitalism.
This presupposed the widest possible scope for the
development of industry, science and technique, all of
them bound up with the growth of cities, the urban
proletariat and the cultural life of the population as
a whole.

No more grotesque distortion can be imagined than to
categorize as "Marxist" the ideas of Pol Pot and his
cohorts. As early as the 1950s Khieu Samphan, Pol
Pot's closest aide, had outlined a perspective of
creating a primitive peasant-based society in which
money, culture and all other facets of urban life
would be abolished."

and

http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/faq/polpot2.html
"The Khmer Rouge regime reached a climax in September
1977 when Pol Pot took to the airwaves and spoke for
nearly five hours on Cambodian radio. For the first
time, Pol Pot acknowledged to the world that Cambodia
was now run by a communist government. The day after
the speech he flew to Beijing to meet with Hua
Guofeng, who had just become leader of the People's
Republic of China following the death of Mao Ze Dong.
The Chinese pledged to support the Khmer Rouge's
rivalry with the Vietnamese but recommended against
all-out war, knowing full well that Vietnam was in a
much better position to win the fight. The meeting
probably delayed an impending Cambodian assault on
Vietnam, but the Vietnamese interpreted it as another
sign of China's military support of an increasingly
dangerous Cambodia. "

I guess this validates what we have all been saying.
The average American wouldn't support secret bombing
of Cambodia, yet there was secret bombing.  The
average Chinese wouldn't support Pol Port, yet there
was Pol Pot.

It is the shysters at the top that seem to screw
things up for everybody.  Will the average person ever
see?  I still have hope.

Best Regards and Happy New Year!!,

Peter G.
Thailand

--- Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Peter,
>
> You live closer to it, but I have large difficulties
> to see that China
> was behind the Cambodian Pol Pot philosophies. It
> was in its
> essence an onslaught on education and knowledge,
> something
> that is very difficult to identify with the policies
> of China.
>
> China have during the last 50 years had a very
> active support of
> education and knowledge. They have gone to extremes
> to build
> a solid base of professionals in all sciences. I
> have seen and
> experienced this, since the early 1960's, in their
> student programs
> for foreign studies and their willingness to send
> students to other
> countries.
>
> Hakan

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