Hallo Robert,

Thursday, 17 February, 2005, 15:46:06, you wrote:

rlr> Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote:

>> Hallo Dave,
>> 
>> No,  Allen  specifically  states  that the founders were not religious
>> men.  I quoted that in my first mail to Todd and that was my only beef
>> with  the  article.   It  is  patently false.  Where he is right he is
>> right  and  where  he  is  wrong  he is wrong and he was wrong in that
>> statement.  

rlr>         Sorry to butt into your discussion, Gustl, but the author was a 
rlr> woman.  Brooke Allen has an axe to grind, and you're right about her 
rlr> errors.

No,  not  at  all.  Mistakes need to be corrected and I appreciate you
pointing out mine.

rlr> However, she does make some excellent points.  The 
rlr> contemporary tendency to view America's founding fathers as 
rlr> evangelical, dispensationalist believing, "born again" Bible thumpers 
rlr> is the perspective she tried to counter.

Yes,  she  does  make  some excellent point which is why I confined my
initial  comment  to her false assertion.  And it should be countered,
but  with  accuracy.   No  good in grinding on an axe where it doesn't
need to be ground.

Happy Happy,

Gustl
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