G'day Keith As far as solid results....no. Yes as per ACREVO report, 9% ethanol emulsified into the vege oil. I found the fuel excellent and it burned cleaned at the exhaust. Talking to a couple of other fellas, they also have tried it and it worked well, but they did caution that some fuel injector pumps have some components that are susceptible to failure when exposed long term to ethanol.
As far as long term study of SVO/PPO I don't think anyone here (Australia) is really interested in it, and would rather rely on information coming out of Europe. I keep in touch with Keller & Co as they are involved with the PPO project and give me some idea of what is happening. The Germans are doing really excellent stuff. Best regards Steven Keith Addison wrote: >G'day Steven > >Did you get any solid results with the ethanol blend - any tests done >on the motor or emissions? I presume you were using ACREVO's 9% of >95% ethanol? > >Good news that you've been having success with crude canola, >undegummed. I hope you'll monitor it closely so that the beginnings >of a benchmark can be established. Unfortunately "the ute is still >going", while encouraging (maybe it'll encourage others), won't >persuade any powers-that-be, nor authorities - they'll want proper >measures that can be nailed to the wall and stay there. A bit like >the results we've had so far with using biodiesel as 2-stroke oil >(usually at about double the OEM recommendation srength): promising, >but no long-term results and no data yet. SVO/WVO is itself in that >situation, though less and less so. > >Best wishes > >Keith > > > > >>G'day all >>I thought it was time for me to chip in on this one, as this a real >>focus of interest, and is one of the few ways you can legally use a >>renewable fuel in Australia without excise obligations. >> >>I am a farmer in Australia who own his own (allbeit small) oil expeller >>(Keller KEK). I have been growing Canola, extracting & filtering the >>oil, processing the oil into biodiesel, using it in my machinery and >>selling the press cake. Because of the implications of the proposed >>taxation of biodiesel, I will be paying tax on a renewable fuel that I >>produce myself. Because of the cost of testing and the volume I make, >>even if the fuel I produce meets the proposed Australian standard, I >>have been informed I cannot access the manufacturers rebate (because I >>dont produce 5,000,000 litres pa) and since the cost of testing will add >>somewhere $1 to $5 per litre, It won't obviously be tested, and I >>therefore won't be able to claim the energy credits because it dosn't >>meet the proposed standard! >> >>After reading the ACREVO report and the mentioned German report last >>year, I began using crude canola oil emulsified with ethanol, through a >>customised dual tank SVO system (parts from Neoteric biofuels). The fuel >>worked really well, until the ATO(Tax office) informed me that by using >>an excisable co-solvent, excise was therefore liable to be paid on the >>entire volume of fuel, simply not on the emulsified volume. Since then, >>I have been using crude, filtered, canola oil and the ute is still >>going. To me it seems as long as you do the startup and shut down >>sequence on biodiesel or fossil fuel, any deposits may be "flushed". >>By the way, crude canola oil is not classified as a fuel. >> >>Best regards >> >>Steven >> >> >>Keith Addison wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi Darren >>> >>><snip> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>And that its removal is necessary: >>>>> >>>>>"It has been demonstrated that the use of crude (gum content c. 2%) >>>>>or degummed crude (gum content of 1.4%, this study) rapeseed oil >>>>>leads to performance problems including filter blockages and engine >>>>>coking. Gums are a major precursor of gel formation which becomes >>>>>particularly problematic at temperatures below 2 ¡C. These problems >>>>>can be ameliorated by using rapeseed oil which has been degummed to >>>>>food grade standard (gum content < 0.2 %)." >>>>>http://www.regional.org.au/au/gcirc/6/214.htm >>>>>Results of engine and vehicle testing of semi-refined rapeseed oil >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>I have read this report (I've got it linked form my site) yet this >>>>information had not sunk in, thanks for pointing this out. >>>> >>>>Even so as I said the paper I read does not mention that the numerous >>>>small scale rapeseed fuel oil mills (many of them operated by farmers) >>>>degum their fuel oil, and it does go into some detail about the crude >>>>oil treatment. I guess that either this information was omitted or that >>>>the Germans find it unnecessary. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>If they find it unnecessary I'd be interested to know what they've >>>based that conclusion on. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>The information (above) that you >>>>posted would suggest gummed oil not being a problem above 2 deg C. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>I don't think it suggests that, it just says it's worse below 2 deg >>>C, and that's just the gel formation bit, not the filter blockages >>>and engine coking. The gel formation would be an added nuisance as >>>rapeseed oil should have a melting point of -10 deg C. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I'll >>>>try and find more details about the refining processes used in the >>>>German mills. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Please let us know what you find. >>> >>>By the way... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I don't know that I would call it excellent, in need of some revision, >>>>but thank you. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>You're welcome, and I do think it's excellent, but I should say that >>>if your website doesn't need revision at any time then either it's >>>not much of a website or you really need to get a life! :-) (At least >>>that's what I try telling myself sometimes...) >>> >>>Best >>> >>>Keith >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Best >>>> >>>>Darren >>>> >>>> > > > >Biofuels at Journey to Forever >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: >http://archive.nnytech.net/ >Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Your use of Yahoo! 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