Dear Pannirselvam Thanks for your message, sorry for the late reply.
>Respected and dear Keith and members > > Thanking you for you to bring here the updated valuable >information about Castor as biofuel raw material. > > The underdeveloped dry semiarid land of the north east of >Brazil has been found to be very excellent for Castor cultivation >with high productivity. .The Brazilian big oil company PETROBRAS >has pa tended process based on the Castor , some more detailed >process information , I can send another e mail if there is an >need for the same here. Please do, if it's not too much trouble. > By using one step simultaneous extraction and >esterification , the patented process use crushed seeds to make >four products , the BioD , the glycerol , the protein, carbohydrate >that seem to deintoxicated for animal feed is now being scaled up >to big pilot plant. I wonder how they detoxify it. Ricin is very poisonous. > Competing with this big , another big a private oil >company , now making investments with social and unfriendly >agricultural modern big farming , as this company called Eco >diesel is also entering now into the market of Brazilian B2 fuel >market, making sound Eco farming model giving land for the poor >landless peole to plant Castor , the housing , the eduction ,the >state government giving the lands , this private company use the >conventional process based on the process of the Brazilian father >of BioD , Prof Expedito Parente , who invited me from India to >BRAZIL(1983) , for me to dedicate on the the Brazilian biofuel >research project. He has the first word patent of bioD including >the Castor based process , and also made Biokerosene from castor >oil sucessfully proved to be the fuel for airoplane >with Military research. >Prof Expedito also work with several government and private company >to make Biofuel and any one can easily share experience with him >about castor oil processing and he has book published too in >Brasil > > The small presss , the small JTF procees , designed to make >animal feed , pyrolsed biogas , Biofuel and organic fertlizer to >recycle back the bioenrgy for comunity development is our small >group research efforts which surely include sunflower , caster oil >of the dry lands as these can make sustainable the life of dry >semiarid peple with great hope with green energy projects. The pyrolised biogas part of it is beyond me, so far. >This integrated project is our dream to make it reality , as we >have already made the small press , thanks to Keith JTF , so simple >to make , now processing coonut , getting good resutls , future the >sunflower and also the castor oil . Which small press it that, Pan? Is it this one? The Sunflower Seed Huller and Oil Press http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/oilpress.html Do you have any photographs of it being used? > We believe , there is no need of bioD , as we already can use oil >directly upto 25 porcent by blending with petro deisel as this is >very cheaper in rural area too , the blending of BIOD from caster , >we hope to get the better results . > > Brazil has 20 years of good research reports about castor oil use >as biofuel , which we have the acess .One main problem with castor >oil BioD is the viscosity that can be easily solved. That seems to be the main problem. Castor oil is 100 times more viscous than petro-diesel. Castor oil biodiesel is less viscous than the straight oil, but several references say it is still higher than the national standards specification limits. If there is an easy way to make it less viscous or to solve the problem that would be valuable to know. Do you have any further information on this? This is quite interesting on how castor oil works as a lubricant and why it's different to other oils: http://www.georgiacombat.com/CASTOR_OIL.htm CASTOR OIL > We are ready to shar the the Brasilian research effort as we >believe that we will be the number one in the world to come up with >this biofuel , not because of the will of the 8 biilions of liters >of alcohol we produce , because the country has the vast land >resources nearby by the Africa , and Europe where there is need >for the fuel . > > Yet big is not not beautifuel , That's a very good word! Big is not beautifuel, small is beautifuel, that's great! :-) >as Micro Soft Bill Gate too has invested the money in the big >Brazilian ethanol plants , but what we need is a sustainable >global world based on small scale decentralised biomass refinary >and investments for small ecobusiness , not the money of big >blues for the modern high tech , leading to large scale >unemployments and large loans , poverty. You are surely right. Doesn't it also mean that the market in Europe might not be so important because of the "fuel miles" issue, the unsustainability of using fuel to transport fuel over long distances? > In this respect our biofuel list members are more aware , yet >we need to come together , give and take our hands to solve the >problems , mainly the from tropical south countries with the need to >duplicate the big scale BIOD busines mistake of the >developed countries as other need not blindly copy the Big one >HIGH TECH . Yes, in a way they are in a better position, they can "leapfrog" to sustainable energy without the obstacle of huge central industries and their influence on policy. Thankyou Pannirselvam, best wishes Keith >Thanking you >Pannirselvam > > > > >Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Anyone care to share any experiences with castor oil based biodiesel > >brewing using small-scale plants? I am told that castor oil dissolves > >in alcohols and external heating is eliminated from the process. I'm > >also hearing conjectures that castor based biodiesel will not freeze > >even below -20 deg C. Any pointers to more specific info along these lines? > > > >I'll get to my own brewing/learning experiments soon (and I'll start > >with proven processes and materials described on J2FE), but we could do > >with as much existing wisdom as we can get our hands on, especially > >because what we want to get into out here is not only for our personal > >consumption. Many thanks in advance for any help. > > > >Chandan > >Hi Chandan > >I can't share any experience of using castor oil but I can offer some >information which might help. It's been discussed a few times before, >I think other list members may have direct experience of it. > >List archives: >http://snipurl.com/oeit >Search results for 'castor' > >The one disadvantage mentioned, that I haven't seen an answer to, was >that crushing the seeds creates a seriously bad odour, enough to put >people off. Also the cake is poinsonous, but James Duke says: >"Although it is highly toxic due to the ricin, a method of >detoxicating the meal has now been found, so that it can safely be >fed to livestock." > >http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Ricinus_communis.html >Ricinus communis > >The toxic principle is water-soluble so is not found in the oil. It's >also said to be a drying oil, the equal of tung oil, yet it has a >much lower Iodine Value, though Iodine Value is quite a crude >indicator of whether oils will polymerise or not and castor oil seems >to be an exception. On the other hand it has a longstanding >reputation of being an excellent motor oil. > >This is an informative website about castor oil, and biodiesel generally: > >http://www.castoroil.in/uses/fuel/castor_oil_fuel.html >Castor Oil as Biofuel & Biodiesel - Info, WWW Resources on Castoroil >as Bio-fuel, Bio-diesel > >Others: > >http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/afcm/castor.html >Castorbeans > >http://www.ibiblio.org/pfaf/cgi-bin/arr_html?Ricinus+communis >Ricinus communis > >http://snipurl.com/oeiu >The Hindu Business Line : Gujarat Oleo Chem bags Rs 25-cr biodiesel >order from IOC >Gujarat Oleo Chem bags Rs 25-cr biodiesel order from IOC >Mumbai , Aug 3 > >http://www.tierramerica.net/2003/0526/ianalisis.shtml >Energy in a Castor Bean >The castor-oil plant, ricinus communis, is the best source for >creating "biodiesel", say Brazilian experts. > >http://www.allbusiness.com/periodicals/article/278737-1.html >First electricity from castor oil: Patrick Knight reports on how the >biodiesel industry in Brazil is taking off. >From Oils & Fats International: Nov, 2004 issue > >Hope this helps. > >Best > >Keith _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/