>Whenever MLK came to town you knew you either gave him what he >wanted or you would have violence on your hands. > >The man was not a saint but he was very good at what he did. That's >why he had to be killed.
And so that proves your point, there's no such thing as peaceful protest, it's just a sham? Why not answer the rest of the question Gary? It went like this: >>>I guess we need >>> >>>to >>> >>>ask: what would Martin Luther King Jr or Ghandi do? >> >>Who would Jesus bomb? > >The moneylenders in the temple? > >>"Peaceful Protest" always had the promise of riots behind it. > >I don't think so. So what about Gandhi? And indeed Jesus? Let's have a look at the global protests since Seattle in 1999, what about them? >On 14Apr, 2006, at 4:41 AM, Keith Addison wrote: > >>>"Peaceful Protest" always had the promise of riots behind it. >>> >> >>I don't think so. I In fact why not answer the rest of the post, just for a change? Here it is: >>>I guess we need >>> >>>to >>> >>>ask: what would Martin Luther King Jr or Ghandi do? >> >>Who would Jesus bomb? > >The moneylenders in the temple? > >>"Peaceful Protest" always had the promise of riots behind it. > >I don't think so. It's always a possibility, but with exceptions the >protestors don't seek it, when they say it's a peaceful protest they >usually mean it and try hard to prevent it becoming anything else. >Violence is often deliberately provoked, often by plants in the >crowd, or you just get attacked or shot anyway without any of the >niceties. If there's such a promise it might not be the protestors >who make it. > >>>Peace with justice, D. Mindock >> >>Did that ever really exist? > >29. King Asoka. Wells, H.G. 1922. A Short History of the World >http://www.bartleby.com/86/29.html > >21. A Kingdom of Agricultural Art in Europe, "Reconstruction by Way >of the Soil", G. T. Wrench, 1946 >http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/Wrench_Recon/Wrench_Recon_21.html > >22. An Historical Reconstruction, "Reconstruction by Way of the >Soil", G. T. Wrench, 1946 >http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/Wrench_Recon/Wrench_Recon_22.html > >There are others. > >Anyway, did peace with justice ever not exist? They exist all the >time, maybe in most places most of the time. > >But you mean on the level of societies, nation states, empires, >globally. There are good examples, and they may represent the human >norm more than the score-tag of history might indicate - maybe it's >what we naturally do if only we can solve the problem of power which >has oppressed us for the last 10,000 years and more. We do often >solve it, in our communities and beyond. Power is probably a problem >of scale, beyond which human affairs cease to be strictly human. >History is the tale of the powerful. We'll see about the future. The >obstacles to peace and justice are easy to see, especially these >days. It's not something to be sceptical about, it's something to >insist on. > >Great kings is what it took. Now all it needs is the Internet. IMHO. > >Best > >Keith _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
