Hakan, Gustl, Keith, and all, As in a marriage, there's a shaking of the rugs occasionally on a list, where there may even be tears. It's shocking to see good people find such frustration, but it does, and I hope the fresh air is flowing in now.
Dear members. How can it be that we are so rough on each other sometimes? Perhaps it's unavoidable: smart people, heartfelt issues, all of us groping toward an uncertain... whatever. This exchange has had my head in a knot. We know we must not waste our energy on negative feelings, though it happens. My two cents. Jesse > From: Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 17:08:49 +0200 > To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst & continuous processes > > > Gustl, > > You are absolutely right, I remember that you were not alone > and you had strong support from me among several other members > on the list. I have never heard Keith request or ask for donations, > on the contrary, he have always supported the biodiesel community, > without asking anything in return. Maybe he sometimes, with reasons, > been quite tough with some list members that was totally out of line. > > Gustl and Keith, between us I am probably the oldest and as it happens > a little bit sick now. Nothing serious, being sick will pass, contrary to > being an idiot, as the one who calls Keith a sick old man. > > Hakan > > At 16:38 07/05/2006, you wrote: >> Hallo Keith, >> >> Just in case people weren't around during the time the list suffered >> from the denial of service and mail flooding time let me tell that >> when we changed servers it was me, Gustl Steiner-Zehender, who called >> for donations to defray costs not you. I handled the money and saw >> that it was all accounted for and properly distributed. I also was >> responsible for receipts for donations and due to computer problems >> and lost information I think that may have been mishandled although >> not intentionally. I believe I still owe a fellow living in Saudi >> Arabia a receipt for his very generous donation although it has taken >> me a lot of remembering to come up with that. Whoever it was please >> drop me an email and I will get that receipt out to you and please >> forgive me for the oversight. It was definitely not intentional. >> >> Again, just to be clear. Keith had absolutely NOTHING to do with the >> request for donations at all. It was all done by another "sick old >> man" by the name of Gustl Steiner-Zehender. >> >> Happy Happy, >> >> Gustl >> >> Saturday, 06 May, 2006, 16:05:51, you wrote: >> >> ...snip... >> KA> The official sewer rat at Infopop and some other folks from there >> KA> lurk around here at the Biofuel list archives like, well, like >> KA> sewer rats, sniffing about and telling the same sort of stuff >> KA> offlist to new members and inviting them to Infopop. List members >> KA> complain about it. Here's one, we have quite a few, not only from >> KA> this one, similar stuff from the Appleseed Queen and so on, whose >> KA> biodiesel book Joe Street didn't seem to like much: >> >>>>> Please be aware that the vast majority of the biodiesel world holds >>>>> Keith Addison and his Journey to Forever site in total contempt. >>>>> Keith Addison is a sick old man who begs for money on his Journey >>>>> to Forever site, supposedly to help the poor and needy but he >>>>> actually uses the money donated to him for his day to day expenses. >>>>> The Journey to Forever site is Keith's "Retirement income", is >>>>> vastly out of date, and contains inaccurate and phony biodiesel >>>>> information. >>>>> >>>>> If you are more interested in making biodiesel that listening to a >>>>> Psychotic old man rant about the evils of the world, I suggest you >>>>> join the Infopop biodiesel website at >> (I have snipped the url here. I won't advertise for that lot.) >>>>> >>>>> Tell them a Kindly Elf sent you. >>>>> >>>>> Squire Tilly KE >> >> ...snip... >> -- >> Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. >> ******** >> We can't change the winds but we can adjust our sails. >> ******** >> The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, >> soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, >> without signposts. >> C. S. Lewis, "The Screwtape Letters" >> ******** >> Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Straße liegen, >> daß sie gerade deshalb von der gewöhnlichen Welt nicht >> gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. >> ******** >> Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't >> hear the music. >> George Carlin >> ******** >> The best portion of a good man's life - >> His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. >> William Wordsworth >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Biofuel mailing list >> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
