Just how many kW Hrs are in a gallon of gas Mike?
  These boys 
  http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Research.html
  say 37.
  Even at 10 times that - you are going to roll an Opel a mile on a kWHr let 
alone 10 miles?
  I bet you will be touting perpetual motion next.
  This is a serious list mike. Enough of these opium dreams.
   
  Kirk

Mike Pelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
Sorry you had a hard time following the links Zeke, mayby your just not
interested in reading what your finding out, for one reaon or another. Here
are the links once again. I did check for you to make sure they worked.
There might have been too many words there for you to read and I apologize
for that but getting educated is sometimes a hard thing to do. 

http://www.ByronWine.com/files/1992%20vapor.pdf includes all the information
one would ever need to design and build a vaporized gasoline fuel system.

The 1959 Opel that got 376 MPGs back in 1973 and reported in the Febuary
20, 2008 'Seattle PI' newspaper is found at this link;
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/351903_needle20.html 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Zeke Yewdall
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 8:57 PM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proventotheworldby
Shell Oil Company in 1973

On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Mike Pelly 
wrote:
> come up with a solid
> reason why Shell Oil was able to get 376MPGs (>7 times prius milage) 
> back in 1973.

Were they? When I followed that link, I got a one page pdf which only
seemed to contain the title page and endmost page of a paper... but it
stated that they thought a 50% fuel efficiency improvement was possible --
of which 20% was from engine design changes -- reasonable, but, this is alot
different than 376 mpg.

Also, byronwine.com includes a bunch of stuff about running engines on
water, which seriously hurts their credibility as a purveyor of actual
information, unless someone can explain to me how the second law of
thermodynamics allows extracting energy from water... even the websites on
running your car on water can't get their chemistry right
-- calling the mixture of hydrogen (H2) and oxygen (O2) gas generated by
electrolysis HHO gas, as if they don't realize the difference between ions
and molecules. Not saying that everything on there is bunk just because one
thing is, but it doesn't lend credibility to the site.

Z

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