I ask you Robert the same questions I have asked before and the
answer never metalizes just a lot of BS that I don't know what I'm talking
about.
1. Why did Shell Oil get 376 MPGs out of a 1959 Opel back in 1973? Please
explain why, if not on account of lightening up the car and vaporizing the
fuel as they attested to back than, why did they achieve this type of gas
mileage?
2. If modern engines are so damn efficient, then why is there the need for a
catalytic converter? Bonus question, why did the exhaust from our 1971
Datsun, we ran on vaporized gasoline smell identical to the exhaust from a
propane powered car?
Lastly robert luis rabello, Where in the past did we have any
conversation having anything to do with this subject? I only posted this
info here last week.
I don't care how much you think you might know about propane it's
pretty obvious that either you do not know anything about vaporized gasoline
beyond whatever line you have been fed or Your just a dupe for the oil
companies. Answer for me the two questions above.
Global Climate change and starvation is here and only getting worse
and if your not up to rolling up your sleeves and doing some positive
actions to address these problems than stay the hell out of the way and quit
you pompous pontificating.
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven
totheworldby Shell Oil Company in 1973
Mike Pelly wrote:
>Why does a gallon of liquid propane need to be pressurized at 172 PSI
>to stay contained in liquid form and gasoline stays liquid at room
temperature?
>
>
Those are its physical properties. Asking this question with respect to
internal combustion is a bit like asking why ice floats.
It's a matter of density at pressure and temperature.
>I use the example of propane to illustrate how a vapor mixes so
>completely with air (unlike a sprayed liquid) There are many reasons
>why propane and gasoline are different including their densities and
>length of carbon chains.
>
Despite propane being a vapor at atmospheric pressure and ambient
temperatures, there is still a finite amount of energy available in a given
volume of liquid propane. It has a LOWER energy density than gasoline,
hence, even though it's a vapor and mixes completely with air, propane
delivers less energy per liter than gasoline. In fact, because gaseous
fuels in general actually displace air in externally-mixed fuel management
systems, propane normally delivers about 10% LESS power than gasoline.
I'm writing this from many years of actual experience in burning propane
as an automobile fuel. I've built engines for propane, too, and by virtue
of squeezing the intake charge harder (higher compression
pressure) I managed to equalize fuel economy between gasoline and propane in
my old Pontiac sedan. The same technique can be used in ANY high octane
fuel, though. Methane, ethanol, methanol also benefit from increased
compression pressure. It has nothing to do with vaporized fuel, and the
improvements are incremental, at best.
We've been around this tree before. You vanish for awhile, then come
back with the same claims for astonishing fuel efficiency based on vaporized
gasoline, but you seem to lack understanding of how high pressure,
computer-feedback fuel injection works. Internal combustion is a complex,
dynamic process for certain, but at the end of all the analysis, there is
very little energy remaining in the exhaust gases of a modern engine.
robert luis rabello
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