Precisely. But what is needed is first a recognition that Joe's small-scale autonomy is an intrinsically desirable thing, and then an understanding of what conditions tend to produce such small-scale autonomy. Then bringing about those conditions would be relatively simple. Jason - I'd like to cross-post your message on another forum. May I give your punctuation a once-over before doing so? -Dawie
----- Original Message ---- From: Jason Mier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, 1 July, 2008 10:34:42 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The food emergency and food myths on a similar note, why try to "factory-ize" it in the first place? let's make up a person- call him Neighborhood Joe. so Joe lives in a sensibly sized town of about 2500 people, there is a bakery, a market, a couple of restaurants, a laundry service, a hardware store, an auto shop, and -like any good town- a pub. joe grows a surplus sized garden; makes bd from the restaurant's and pub's fryers; fuel alcohol from the bakery, market and his garden food wastes; methane and compost from the glycerine, distillers sediments, and yard waste; and money from the shops and neighbors who understand what he is doing and want to buy his surplus. joe spends his money on the local shops when he's pinched for time, needs parts, a drink, or doesn't feel like cooking that day. now take that and change it to say joe buys out all the neighbors, plows everything under and has hundreds of acres of crops to do all that with new materials. noone around has their lands or shops anymore, so they cant afford to buy joe's products. this in turn makes everybody work for joe to survive. joe has no local market anymore, so he has to go outside. the parasites who run the markets expect uber-cheap goods so joe has to cut costs (i.e. worker's salaries) which ruins the neighborhood even more. now who wants that?? _________________________________________________________________ Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_062008 _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080702/dc8a1f45/attachment.html _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
