I think many more people benefit from stops 1/4 mile apart on rural 
routes, than the extra stops downtown and around Cornell that are just a 
few blocks away. #30 stops on Seneca, Cayuga, and Green in a row. I bet 
I could walk that faster than it takes the bus to make those 3 stops. Do 
we really need to many stops downtown that are 1 block apart?

-Andy

Jon Bosak wrote:
> Putting in park-and-ride lots makes sense, but eliminating flag
> stops would essentially kill rural bus service.  The rural lines
> currently serve everyone who lives on a major highway or can walk
> to a major highway.  If flag stops were eliminated, the only
> people the buses would serve would be those who could drive to a
> park-and-ride lot -- a big step backward in providing an
> alternative to cars.
> 
> If stopping to pick people up or drop them off regularly puts a
> TCAT bus behind schedule, then that schedule should be adjusted.
> I hadn't heard before that this was a major problem.
> 
> Jon
> 
> Margaret McCasland wrote:
>> Sorry for the late reply.  I think Rob Morache's earlier post contains  
>> the kernel of a major solution: more park'n'rides.
>>
>> I agree there should be less "flag stops;" they are amazingly time  
>> consuming. I had an unbelievably long bus ride to and from T-burg last  
>> month which ended up way over schedule. (Perhaps flag stops could be  
>> allowed only during "off-peak" hours).
>>
>> However there should be many more "park and rides" to serve outlying  
>> AND not so far out areas.  You can have parking nodes that cluster  
>> cars without having to build housing nodes and/or abandon existing  
>> housing stock (especially if they are in areas with farm stands or  
>> minimarts where people may also want to shop after work).
>>
>> If some park and rides are near town, people who need to do errands  
>> after work can take the bus back to their car and then go to the  
>> grocery store or--gasp--the mall without going all the way home first  
>> to get their car.  Existing "side roads could be feeders to the bus  
>> system, so the only infrastructure change would be creating the  
>> parking areas.  This would keep cars out of downtown, off the  
>> campuses, and help keep rural areas rural.
>>
>> And they don't have to be paved; Enfield is a great example. But we  
>> also need them closer in--say on the land the County owns near the  
>> hospital and the Health Department's current location (hmm; could the  
>> existing parking there turn into a park and ride once the Health Dept  
>> moves?)
>>
>> I think ALL the major routes into town need park and rides far out,  
>> part way into town, and then close in.
>>
>> To use 96 B as an example: say, South Danby, the hamlet of Danby, and  
>> then around the Danby-Town of Ithaca line.  96 North of Ithaca already  
>> has one in T'burg, but needs one further south in Ulysses and then  
>> again in the Town of Ithaca near CMC (where people from Iradell and  
>> Hayts Rd and the Dubois Rd areas could feed into the system). I live  
>> on Hayts Rd, and I know there is a LOT of interest in being able to  
>> take the bus to the colleges and downtown.
>>
>> I know park and rides require a lot of inter-municipal and interagency  
>> cooperation, but cooperation is generally a good thing to do.
>>
>> Margaret
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