Re: [sword-devel] Not user-friendly behavior in commentaries (should be continuous)

[Peter Von Kaehne]

I think modules should faithfully reflect the text and not contain any hacks. Bugs in presentation are then firmly owned by the engine or any frontends which may or may not be deficient.

 

Insofar as most frontends look at Bible texts by chapter (with or without additional easy scrolling) it seems bizarre that commentaries do not show the same - in particular as commentaries will much more likely play around with versification - explain verse 1 and 10 before 2-9 etc - summarise and split stuff etc etc.

 

So, this is a frontend bug and I as module maintainer would not accept any modules which duplicate content - and I would delete any which have made it past me accidentally.

 

Peter

 

Gesendet: Montag, 01. Juni 2020 um 10:16 Uhr
Von: "yvand" <yvand.sw...@gmail.com>
An: sword-devel@crosswire.org
Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] Not user-friendly behavior in commentaries (should be continuous)

Thanks for the answers.

Some advise to duplicate the commentary for every verse (Ps.23.1, Ps.23.2, Ps.23.3, etc.) and some said it is a frontend issue. I am still a bit lose and disappointed for the end users.

I don't understand why for commentaries, the OSIS reference "Ps.23-1.5" is not the same as "Ps.23.1 Ps.23.2 Ps.23.3 Ps.23.4 Ps.23.5" for instance. In my opinion it should be considered exactly the same. Or else, why not? Moreover, if I declare that this commentary covers "Ps.23.1-5", the engine should show the commentary if I asked for commentary for verse 3 for instance. Why only for the first vese? Or maybe I misunderstood the concept of Crosswire commentary…

If I change all the OSIS references to match every verses, I hope the module size will not grow 20 times. And if I do so, for frontends like Xiphos which have a "commentary by chapter" view, the frontend will duplicate the commentary or use a hack to avoid duplication of the same text…

Currently I do not know what is the best, I see all these proposals like rather hacks (in the OSIS source or in frontends).

--yvand

Le 30/05/2020 à 18:18, Karl Kleinpaste a écrit :

On 5/30/20 11:45 AM, yvand wrote:

I think Karl already talked about this feature in the past. But maybe I am wrong, I did not find the conversation.

Xiphos has a feature, "commentary by chapter," so that whole commentary chapters are displayed along with whole Bible chapters, and then the verse is tracked visually in the commentary pane, but in a different manner from the Bible pane (i.e. current verse always aligned to top, plus a preceding horizontal rule).  It's a UI issue IMO, not an engine issue.  If you explicitly list the verse range covered in your markup, then I imagine you might get the effect you want in other UIs.

Up to this time, Xiphos' commentary by chapter has not been default, and I wonder if I should make it so in the future.
 

 

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