On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 20:28, Fredrik Johansson
<fredrik.johans...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Robert Kern <robert.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 15:18, flyeng4 <flye...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In [40]: 1/s
>>> Out[40]: 1/s <-- Makes sense but might be 'hz'?
>>
>> You need to be careful with that. Hz specifically means "cycles per
>> second", which is not always the same thing as 1/s. In particular,
>> angular frequencies are also measured in 1/s (technically radians/s
>> but radians are a ratio of distances and so are "unitless" by the
>> usual logic), but they differ from Hz by a factor of 2*pi. Sadly,
>> units are not the most rigorous of mathematical constructs.
>
> I disagree, 1/s is the definition of the hertz, period (pun accidental :-).

Sorry, but that's just not true. There are other 1/s quantities that
have nothing to do with cycles, like the becquerel:

  http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/siderive.html

> Frequencies and angular frequencies differ by a factor 2*pi precisely
> because they measure different things, so equating them is (usually)
> an error, like equating meters and kilometers. The inability of
> dimensional analysis to prevent such errors is a limit of scope, not
> one of rigor.

The lack of rigor is that we use the same units to describe different
quantities by silently dropping the "radians", "cycles", and
"disintegrations". I entirely agree with you that they measure
different things. We apply the same units to them regardless of that,
and that is the lack of rigor I refer to.

-- 
Robert Kern

"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless
enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as
though it had an underlying truth."
  -- Umberto Eco

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