I think we all agree the discussion should happen at the mailinglist, as opposed in private emails. Only if nobody responds at the list, I think it is ok for the student to email a mentor privately, asking him to respond at the list.
Regarding the mailinglist introductions, maybe we can simply reverse the order in our checklist: 1. Submit a PR (if you have problems with git or trouble submitting a PR, please ask on the list for help) 2. Introduce yourself to the list That should reduce the mailinglist traffic to only those students that will likely submit an application, but at the same time do not discriminate against those learning git (by encouraging them to seek help at the list). ONdrej On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Jason Moore wrote: > One more note of concern. We've asked students to post their proposal > drafts and final versions to the wiki. This makes it an open process > that is also archived by default. There are positives to this approach. > > It seems most students are now using google docs or sharing pdfs > instead. Google docs has an easy way to make comments on proposals but > I'm not sure that is worth the lack of openness and archiving. > > Jason > moorepants.info > +01 530-601-9791 > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 2:16 PM Jason Moore <moorepa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I don't agree that a requirement to introducing themselves should be > > getting a PR merged. That is a barrier to community building for these new > > potential contributors. My opinion is that we put far too much weight on > > the PR(s) in the first place. > > > > I like the idea of having each student opening an issue on GIthub with > > their introduction and their discussion about their proposal ideas. This > > keeps the noise off the mailing list and self contains the discussion to > > those that want to participate. Of course, a label would be needed. > > > > I also think it should simply be our policy that all discussion with > > applicants is in the open. I instruct each student that emails me directly > > to send their inquires to the mailing list. The more bias we can remove > > from this process, the better. > > > > Jason > > moorepants.info > > +01 530-601-9791 > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 2:08 PM Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> Perhaps there could also be a mentor mailing list for helping any new > >> contributors (GSOC or otherwise) looking to open a first pull request. > >> > >> On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 20:41, Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 18:31, Aaron Meurer <asmeu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Maybe the best way for students to simply introduce themselves would > >> > > be to mention that they are apply to GSoC when they open their first > >> > > pull request. Since they have to open a pull request anyway, this > >> > > should reduce the noise. > >> > > >> > I think this would be better. The instruction should say to get a PR > >> > merged first and then afterwards introduce yourself on the mailing > >> > list. When someone does introduce themselves on the mailing list the > >> > first thing said is always to go and get a PR merged anyway. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Oscar > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "sympy" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to sympy+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > >> <mailto:sympy%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sympy/CAHVvXxRr%2B6dDxrJkwmt2cpV4UwVzN85EM88WEV3MR0%2BFuR9Hqg%40mail.gmail.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "sympy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to sympy+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sympy/CAP7f1Ag67TOBx7vF5TZhCDUxZM%3D4at-6MsuXdXfbi%3DTM4de7mw%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sympy/CAP7f1Ag67TOBx7vF5TZhCDUxZM%3D4at-6MsuXdXfbi%3DTM4de7mw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sympy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sympy+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sympy/f33d6b81-4954-4b2a-a5dc-c14bea01a9c8%40www.fastmail.com.
