I think we should encourage students to post on the mailing list when they want to discuss their ideas and if they have any questions, or need any help.
I don't think student introductions serve any purpose on the mailing list. The gitter channel might be a better place for that IMO. Regards, Nikhil Maan On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 3:29:24 AM UTC+5:30, ondrej wrote: > > I think we all agree the discussion should happen at the mailinglist, as > opposed in private emails. Only if nobody responds at the list, I think it > is ok for the student to email a mentor privately, asking him to respond at > the list. > > Regarding the mailinglist introductions, maybe we can simply reverse the > order in our checklist: > > 1. Submit a PR (if you have problems with git or trouble submitting a PR, > please ask on the list for help) > > 2. Introduce yourself to the list > > > That should reduce the mailinglist traffic to only those students that > will likely submit an application, but at the same time do not discriminate > against those learning git (by encouraging them to seek help at the list). > > ONdrej > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Jason Moore wrote: > > One more note of concern. We've asked students to post their proposal > > drafts and final versions to the wiki. This makes it an open process > > that is also archived by default. There are positives to this approach. > > > > It seems most students are now using google docs or sharing pdfs > > instead. Google docs has an easy way to make comments on proposals but > > I'm not sure that is worth the lack of openness and archiving. > > > > Jason > > moorepants.info > > +01 530-601-9791 > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 2:16 PM Jason Moore <moore...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > > I don't agree that a requirement to introducing themselves should be > getting a PR merged. That is a barrier to community building for these new > potential contributors. My opinion is that we put far too much weight on > the PR(s) in the first place. > > > > > > I like the idea of having each student opening an issue on GIthub with > their introduction and their discussion about their proposal ideas. This > keeps the noise off the mailing list and self contains the discussion to > those that want to participate. Of course, a label would be needed. > > > > > > I also think it should simply be our policy that all discussion with > applicants is in the open. I instruct each student that emails me directly > to send their inquires to the mailing list. The more bias we can remove > from this process, the better. > > > > > > Jason > > > moorepants.info > > > +01 530-601-9791 > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 2:08 PM Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > >> Perhaps there could also be a mentor mailing list for helping any new > > >> contributors (GSOC or otherwise) looking to open a first pull > request. > > >> > > >> On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 20:41, Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 18:31, Aaron Meurer <asme...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > Maybe the best way for students to simply introduce themselves > would > > >> > > be to mention that they are apply to GSoC when they open their > first > > >> > > pull request. Since they have to open a pull request anyway, > this > > >> > > should reduce the noise. > > >> > > > >> > I think this would be better. The instruction should say to get a > PR > > >> > merged first and then afterwards introduce yourself on the mailing > > >> > list. 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