On 14/9/17 2:43 PM, Ryan Kelly wrote:
> On 15 September 2017 at 05:46, Mark Hammond <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>     Another way to look at this is: at some point, Mozilla makes a decision
>     that even the most serious security vulnerability which can cause
>     significant harm to users will not be fixed in some older versions. I
>     find it difficult to justify that the FxA team should be held to a
>     higher standard - and in some cases, it's even possible that having FxA
>     work on such older, vulnerable Firefoxes could potentially cause *more*
>     harm to the user.
> 
> 
> I strongly support this as a lower-bound on our ambitions here.  Mark,
> is there a concrete policy based around ESR etc for these decisions?

I asked on #security - a summary of the conversation is below, but the
tl;dr is that we've never shipped a security patch before the *current*
ESR, even known zero-days. However, there's no specific policy that say
we never will.

Mark

> <markh> is there a documented policy somewhere that describes where we
will and will not fix security bugs? ie, I'm basically looking for a
policy that says "even serious security bugs will not be back-ported to
current-esr-minus-1" or similar

> <•dveditz> markh: about the most definitive thing we've promised is at
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/

> <•dveditz> "Maintenance of each ESR, through point releases, is
limited to high-risk/high-impact security vulnerabilities and in rare
cases may also include off-schedule releases that address live security
vulnerabilities. Backports of any functional enhancements and/or
stability fixes are not in scope. "
...

> <markh> dveditz: so has there been a security bug so bad we've ever
ported it back to a version *before* the current ESR and cut a new
release of that old version?

> dveditz> not that I remember
...
> <•dveditz> If we still have a bunch of people on that branch and it's
EOL and there's a live attack in the wild maybe we'd ship an update?
> <•dveditz> worms are bad
> <•dveditz> we've hardly ever fixed actual 0-days though. Mostly we're
backporting vulnerability fixes, and we wouldn't do that kind of
prophylactic back-port to an unsupported branch.

> dveditz> won't say "never", but extremely unlikely and probably would
need approving at the top of the company
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