On 13/02/2012 15:54, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: > Le 2/13/12 1:49 PM, Francesco Chicchiriccò a écrit : >> Il 13/02/2012 13:07, Emmanuel Lécharny ha scritto: >>> Le 2/13/12 12:48 PM, Francesco Chicchiriccò a écrit : >>>> Hello there, >>>> it's still me - sorry for bothering, but I really have many questions >>>> and issues popping out from my mind :-) >>>> >>>> Now it's about website and logo. >>>> >>>> As far as I've understood, we need a status page [1] and a website >>>> [2]. >>>> >>>> My questions arise especially about [2]: >>>> >>>> 1. Syncope IdM has already a website [3]: my idea is that such website >>>> will remove any project information or documentation as soon as ASF >>>> site >>>> and wiki will be ready; moreover, [3] will contain a link to ASF site >>>> and wiki and will provide only information related to paid activities >>>> about Apache Syncope as provided by Tirasa [4], my company: is this >>>> fine? >>> The base idea is that the official Syncope web site will be hosted by >>> The ASF. That Tirasa sells support on Syncope is not The ASF business, >>> as soon as Tirasa attribute The ASF for the ownership. For instance, >>> the Tirasa Web Site and documentaion *must* refers "Syncope" as >>> "Apache Syncope", and mention that "Syncope, Apache Syncope and >>> Apache" names are The ASF properties. >> Correct: I am only pointing here that there is an existing domain name >> (syncope-idm.org) owned by Tirasa: can Tirasa use this website for >> advertising its paid services built around Apache Syncope, with the >> above reported disclaimer? > That's clearly an issue. The legal team will sooner or later claim > that syncope-idm is infringing the ASF brand if syncope-idm redirect > to Tirada only :) > > The very best would be for Tirasa to transfer the domain to Apache, > because all in all, Syncope users will be directed to The ASF at some > point. But this is what the user ML will be good for, somehow, no ?
Ok, I think then that, in order to avoid any possible conflict, we will remove any information from there as soon as ASF website and wiki are ready and, since the domain will expire next May 20th (according to whois), Tirasa will simply let it expire. That's easier, at the end. > Now, the key point here is that The ASF is not the nexus that will > bring potential customers to Tirasa. It's just the place where > *anyone* can pull the project from and use it for free but more > important, it's a place where a diverse community, individuals as > companies, can work together, hands in hands, to build a better > software. If Tirasa benefits from a wider exposure of this project to > make more money, that's very, very cool. But this is a side effect, > induced by the fact that you guys have a very deep knowledge on this > project, and can leverage your investiment in it. Thanks for remembering, but I guess we're already quite confident with Open Source and its business model :-) > For the ASF, what is important is that the project is alive and > kicking, with no conflict of interest whatsoever. Agreed. Thanks again. Regards. -- Francesco Chicchiriccò Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
