I don't think any of us have said "just shut up, Alan". Rather, I think we've offered well-reasoned arguments, and have asked Alan for a substantive rationale that is logically and internally consistent. He can ask the question, and he can offer proof, but if the statement comes down to "he ran fast, so he must be on drugs" then these type of statements have two problems. First, they border on libel, which may expose the writer to legal actions. Second, it simply runs down the sport without basis. They become of a nature similar to the query "when was the last time you beat your wife?" I don't think such statements have any place in a public forum, which is what this list is.

I don't know if this type of controversy rages among fans in other sports such as cycling or swimming, where doping issues continue to arise. But my sense of what drives the discussion on this list is a continuing attempt by Ben Johnson supporters to vindicate his actions in 1988. Maybe this occurs because so many people disliked Carl Lewis and can't stand the thought that he was the beneficiary of Johnson's foibles. Or maybe its Canadians thinking they had finally triumphed over their more dominant neighbors and then finding that it was taken away. Whatever the reason, the accusations made on this list have substantial emotional content that seems to go beyond simply making speculative statements.

RMc

At 07:46 PM 10/14/2003 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote..
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:55:17 -0400
From: Keith Whitman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: t-and-f: rutto

Bob,
I'm not stating an opinion about the athlete in question, but isn't a
discussion list allowed to include the right to include an opinion?  Alan
simply said he was suspicious which is a fair statement given the state of
our sport right now.  We'd all love to live in that drug free athletic
utopia in which people just gravitate to the event they are best at and put
up astonishing marks.  Until that day occurs then suspicion will be
rampant.  Some will have the stones to make comments to that affect and
some won't.  At least Alan isn't sticking his head in the sand...



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