Excellent point by Marty Post.  It all depends on whether you interpret
germany as "merging", or as one country joining the other.  If two leagues
were to merge, I'd see no reason not to keep the best record of the two,
which is exactly what Germany did.  But it certainly does point out  that
the situation is slightly less clear than I had first thought.

Knowing the way people bicker in Connecticut high school track (which is
what triggered this thread), I suspect that whatever they decide will not be
a unanimous decision.

- Ed Parrot


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From: "Post, Marty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: t-and-f: Pre-league records


> It seems a number of athletics federations around the world don't adhere
to
> this principal when it comes to recognizing national records.
>
> For example, as listed in Winfried Kramer's national athletics records
> booklet, most of the current German women's records were set by athletes
> competing under the banner of the German Democratic Republic (East
Germany).
> And, going the other way, when the Soviet Union broke up, a lot of the new
> federations grandfathered/grandmothered as national records marks by USSR
> athletes rather than start from when the new nation was formed (or
> re-formed).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed and Dana Parrot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:49 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: t-and-f: Pre-league records
>
>
> Jim -
>
> > Should a mark set by someone from a league member school prior to the
> formal organization of the league be >considered the league record?
> > My gut feeling is no, therefore giving rise to the possibility that a
> school  record could be better than the league mark >(which is not a
> problem). This is  more to determine what the existing league record was
> (and by extension
> > whether it was broken in a meet last weekend)
>
> Much easier than the four minute mile question (although poring through an
> old T&F News issue is very enjoyable) - of course not.  A league is an
> entity that din't exist when the mark was set.  If an 8th grader in a
middle
> school runs 4:15 for the mile, and didn't get faster when he got to high
> school, the high school wouldn't consider that the school record.  It's
the
> same thing.
>
>
> - Ed Parrot
>
>

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