I would like to repeat (slightly extended) the contents of my previous post of 
how to interpret these tags:

 

The default state (no tags) is:

water (usually) always present

 

The seasonal, intermittent and ephemeral tags (allowing season or month 
timeframes in addition to yes) say:

 

The value yes and no define a new default state for the whole year (based on 
tag).

 

Other values define:

For these times, the explicit state is: the water (usually) always present, is 
intermittent, or is ephemeral

For all other times, the default state is: (usually) never present.

 

Always present overrides intermittent overrides ephemeral overrides not present.

Explicit state always overwrites default state.

 

These specific rules would result in exactly the interpretation you’ve given 
below.

 

intermittent=summer

In summer: explicit state = intermittent

Otherwise: default state = not present

 

intermittent=yes

default state = intermittent

 

seasonal=summer

in summer: explicit state= always present

otherwise: default state = not present

 

in combination:

in summer: explicit state= always present

otherwise: default state = intermittent

 

From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2018 08:32
To: tagging@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Tagging] RFC proposed water property key 'ephemeral '

 

On 29/05/18 20:52, Paul Allen wrote:

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:06 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com 
<mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com> > wrote:


Adding intermittent=yes to seasonal=yes adds no usefull information either. 

That depends how you interpret it.  Which would depend, to some extent, how it 
was documented. 

The seasonal=yes says it is non perennial all by it self. 

 

You're interpreting seasonal as being a specific case of intermittent: 
sometimes there is water

and sometimes there isn't; the water is present (for example) in summer but not 
other times of year.

 

Try this alternative interpretation which is meaningful: there is water there 
in summer but not

at other times of year however, even in summer, that flow is intermittent.


In that case I would tag

intermittent=summer 

The tag is much clear than 
intermittent=yes 
seasonal=summer
that could be taken (and how I would interpret it) to have a summer water 
presence with intermittent water at other times of the year. 




 

That, i think, would make such a combination meaningful.  Not necessarily how 
people

would interpret it without further explanation, which would be an argument 
against such

use, but meaningful.


The tags should 'make sense' without requiring further explanation ... as that 
generates these kind of problems. 

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