Hello,

Multiple people have referred this issue and changeset 39517002 to the
OpenStreetMap Foundation Data Working Group about this issue. The Data
Working Group has responsibility for the resolution of disputes beyond
the normal means of the community, as well as some responsibilities
concerning imports. I am replying here rather than the changeset as it
should reach everyone involved.

CanVec Quality
==============

The CanVec import is one that was started long ago so parts of the
documentation are lacking and some aspects are unclear.[1] CanVec, like
any other import, has certain hard requirements, including the use of a
dedicated user account.

In particular it is expected that imported CanVec data is

- Integrated with existing data, particularly at NTS/CanVec tile edges

- Valid

- Internally consistent with both the newly imported CanVec and existing
  OSM data, particularly to avoid overlapping landuse like forest and
  water, forest and residential, or wetlands in what is obviously a
  residential subdivision.

- Uploaded in small enough parts that the changesets make sense. This
  means never uploading more than 50k objects at once, and typically
  fewer than 10k.

- Not duplicating existing OSM data. Evaluating what data is better
  generally requires experience with both CanVec and OSM data in the
  *region being mapped*

It is not required that CanVec data is compared an external source like
Bing imagery, but this is helpful, particularly when resolving problems.

We encourage the Canadian community to develop better documentation for
people importing CanVec to achieve this and to remove outdated
documentation.[2]

Reverting
=========

Advance permission is not required for reverts, nor for normal mapping
activities. At the same time, users are expected to be responsible,
particularly when using tools for reverting which allow large-scale
changes where other users may disagree with them.

Where there are problems with an import reverting is an option, but
just one of many, and often not the appropriate first action. Unless
there are legal problems[3] or fatal problems with the import it is
preferable if the original importer can fix the problems in a timely
manner. There was every indication this was going to happen in this case.

The revert of 39517002 was inappropriate and counter-productive. New
actions like this revert may lead to further Data Working Group
involvement and potentially blocks. If the Canadian community needs help
reverting 41749133 and 41756737, the Data Working Group can revert those
changesets.

While not going into depth on the changeset discussion at this time, I
want to remind everyone involved that OpenStreetMap is a crowd-sourcing
project, which inherently involves working with other people. This
requires good communication, which was absent here.

Paul Norman

For the OpenStreetMap Foundation Data Working Group

[1]: Except for the CanVec license, which is ODbL and possibly CC BY-SA

[2]: Much of the CanVec documentation is outdated, which makes it
     difficult to know what is relevant. A good start would be removing
     outdated documentation.

[3]: Please refer cases of large-scale infringement to d...@osmfoundation.org
     so we can "redact" the content to remove it from publicly viewable
     history.


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