Note that someone who wants to show their map style at OSM website can be included, though they must sponsor hosting
See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_tile_layers/Guidelines_for_new_tile_layers As far as I know, the main blocker seems to be "Capable of meeting traffic demands. The proposed tile layer server/server farm must be capable of accepting the traffic volume from the OpenStreetMap website." ÖPNVKarte is map style that joined recently. Dec 13, 2020, 12:08 by n...@foresters.org: > > Seems to me that apart from the tagging, the issue highlighted here is > with how the general public cab easily use OSM? Going to the OSM map, > the layers on offer are Standard, Cycle Map (which does show the > driveway connected) etc. but if a user wants a more specific use this is > not easy to find. To my mind this is where more options from the > worldwide map fail to deliver and is a bigger issue that can be resolved > by understanding the 'customer' journey better? > > On 13/12/2020 10:28, Nick Allen wrote: > > >> Hi, >> >> I tend to think of tagging more in terms of 'who will use this?' I >> know my local area extremely well, so I map it as best I can using >> tags that will make sense to anyone visiting the area. When I'm away >> from home I use OSM extensively to find things, and hope that the >> local mappers are using a universal scheme so that it will work for >> me. >> >> I've travelled on roads in Portugal, Spain an parts of Africa which >> dont have a surface such as tarmac (tarmacadam / asphalt) or >> concrete, but instead have been built with a top coating similar to >> clay, which is compressed and then smoothed using a grader. >> Particularly in Portugal, at the time I drove on them, these >> 'unsurfaced' roads were so good that they were better than the (at >> that time) M25 which was full of pot-holes and difficult to drive >> safely on. >> >> Although >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highways>> is the obvious >> choice to look at, I actually find that >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa>> explains it better. >> >> Regards & Happy Mapping / Surveying >> >> Nick >> (Tallguy) >> >> On Sun, 2020-12-13 at 10:08 +0000, Edward Bainton wrote: >> >>> > >>> https://85a.uk/noverton_farm_1280x800.jpg >>> > >>> >>> > It seems daft to me that the mud gets rendered but not >>> the hardcore. If >>> >>> > I change the "driveway" to "track" that would be the >>> dreaded tagging for >>> >>> > the renderer would it not? Generally in this part of the >>> world "track" >>> >>> > means mud, rather than a roadway suitable for all >>> vehicles. >>> >>> >>> I don't know what part of the world you're in, but by my >>> Fenland lights, I'd probably call that a track, not a driveway >>> - certainly once it passes the farm buildings (since I see a >>> driveway as implying car-worthy access to a building). >>> >>> Would that solve it? Driveway as far as the farm and then >>> track? >>> >>> I'm going to risk blasphemy and suggest that tagging for the >>> renderer is what we all do, all day (or why map?). The problem >>> imo is "fudging it for the renderer", or "outright lying for >>> the renderer". In this case, I'd say track is a valid choice - >>> I think even for the whole length, if by "driveway" we >>> infer something, short, tidy, and suburban. >>> >>> But I'm still a spring chicken round here, relatively >>> speaking, and I await correction by my olders. >>> >>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 at 09:09, Nick Whitelegg via Talk-GB <>>> >>> talk-gb@openstreetmap.org>>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >Getting back to this case, this is the farm drive. >>>> >Beyond the >>>> >>>> >cattle-grid the public bridleway continues left >>>> through the farm >>>> >>>> >buildings, and the surface deteriorates to the >>>> usual farm mud: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> https://85a.uk/noverton_farm_1280x800.jpg >>>> >>>> >>>> Apologies for going off topic, but I knew that name >>>> (Noverton Farm) sounded familiar. >>>> >>>> A quick check of where it is would explain why. In 1998 >>>> I did a long distance walk from Sussex to the Peak >>>> District, following ordinary footpaths (planned using >>>> OS maps) and went through this area, the Teme Valley. >>>> It was very nice >>>> but>>>> the footpaths were in an appaling state of >>>> disrepair, I remember on several occasions that day >>>> having to scramble through dense shrub cover and >>>> attempt to negotiate barbed-wire fences. I seem to >>>> recall Noverton Farm as being the site of some >>>> particularly badly-maintained footpaths. >>>> >>>> As an aside this walk is what indirectly got me into OSM. >>>> I wanted to illustrate the walk on the internet but OS >>>> licensing did not permit it, which is how I started >>>> Freemap and then later got involved with OSM. I still >>>> haven't illustrated this walk incidentally, but... >>>> >>>> Would be interested to find out if the area has improved >>>> since.. >>>> >>>> Nick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From:>>>> Martin Wynne <>>>> mar...@templot.com>>>> > >>>> >>>> Sent:>>>> 12 December 2020 14:30 >>>> >>>> To:>>>> >>>> talk-gb@openstreetmap.org>>>> <>>>> >>>> talk-gb@openstreetmap.org>>>> > >>>> >>>> Subject:>>>> Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track>>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/12/2020 13:15, Andy Townsend wrote: >>>> >>>> > >>>> > Ultimately, if "something needs doing", "someone" >>>> will need to do it. >>>> > Perhaps that someone is you? >>>> >>>> Hi Andy, >>>> >>>> Yes that someone could be me. I have a server >>>> (located in Columbus, >>>> Ohio) on which I am using only a fraction of the >>>> available memory space >>>> and bandwidth. I have been thinking of making better >>>> use of it, possibly >>>> by hosting something from OSM. >>>> >>>> >>>> > I'd suggest setting up a copy of the >>>> > standard map rendering as per >>>> >>>> https://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/ >>>> > (just for Worcestershire would be fine) and start >>>> tinkering with the >>>> > logic that decides what sort of service road is >>>> what, such as >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/b10aef3866bacf387581b8fea4eec265010b0d14/project.mml#L475>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. I have been looking at >>>> >>>> https://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/>>>> but >>>> I have a lot to learn. I can do Windows programming, >>>> but on stuff for >>>> the web I'm only a dabbler. I looked at Mapnik and >>>> saw interfaces only >>>> for Python and C. If that had been Pascal, I would >>>> have dived in by now. >>>> >>>> I will have another look and see where I might >>>> start. The idea of >>>> creating my own map does appeal to me. >>>> >>>> Getting back to this case, this is the farm drive. >>>> Beyond the >>>> cattle-grid the public bridleway continues left >>>> through the farm >>>> buildings, and the surface deteriorates to the usual >>>> farm mud: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://85a.uk/noverton_farm_1280x800.jpg >>>> >>>> It seems daft to me that the mud gets rendered but >>>> not the hardcore. If >>>> I change the "driveway" to "track" that would be the >>>> dreaded tagging for >>>> the renderer would it not? Generally in this part of >>>> the world "track" >>>> means mud, rather than a roadway suitable for all >>>> vehicles. >>>> >>>> This is where the farm drive leaves the road - this >>>> is definitely more >>>> than a "track" - note the double gates: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://goo.gl/maps/XEs4XKs5UUHNBt8E8 >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> >>>> Martin. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talk-GB mailing list >>>> >>>> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >>>> >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talk-GB mailing list >>>> >>>> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >>>> >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-GB mailing list >>> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >>> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________Talk-GB mailing list>> >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >>
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