Totally agree that openstreetmap.org isn't supposed to be a "general
public" map destination but without knowing user journeys, I assume that
is where most people land.
Options could be that openstreetmap.org provide alternative links based
on locality and/or develop robust (N.B. tiles from opencyclemap.org
seems to have security issue) local solutions that are found by search
engines (i.e. good search engine optimisation)
On 13/12/2020 12:12, Andy Townsend wrote:
On 13/12/2020 11:16, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote:
Note that someone who wants to show their map style at OSM website can
be included, though they must sponsor hosting
See
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_tile_layers/Guidelines_for_new_tile_layers
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_tile_layers/Guidelines_for_new_tile_layers>
As far as I know, the main blocker seems to be
"Capable of meeting traffic demands. The proposed tile layer
server/server farm
must be capable of accepting the traffic volume from the
OpenStreetMap website."
ÖPNVKarte is map style that joined recently.
Dec 13, 2020, 12:08 by n...@foresters.org:
Seems to me that apart from the tagging, the issue highlighted
here is with how the general public can easily use OSM? Going to
the OSM map, the layers on offer are Standard, Cycle Map (which
does show the driveway connected) etc. but if a user wants a more
specific use this is not easy to find. To my mind this is where
more options from the worldwide map fail to deliver and is a
bigger issue that can be resolved by understanding the 'customer'
journey better?
The main blocker for a map that shows public footpaths etc. would
actually be the "Global scope and coverage" requirement on that page,
since public footpaths only exist in England and Wales.
It used to be possible to easily replace tiles from one of the map
styles at osm.org with another one, but since the move to https-only
tiles that's now much harder to do. You can replace (say)
https://map.atownsend.org.uk/hot/9/253/166.png with
https://tile-a.openstreetmap.fr/hot/9/253/166.png at the hosts file
level, but need to click through a "scary browser warning" every few days.
More generally openstreetmap.org isn't really designed as a "general
public" map destination, which is fair enough (it can't do
everything). It's easy to make suggestions like "it should do X as
well" - the tricky bit is actually doing it and maintaining it. I'd
definitely prefer a project landing page that's closer to the German
one https://openstreetmap.de/ , but I don't have the skills, energy,
time or enthusiasm to make that happen. I particularly like the
"showroom" there - a link to lots of different map styles, separate
from the main openstreetmap.de map.
Another example that is surely worth mentioning here is
https://cycle.travel - that's designed for a particular use case. I
suspect that most people become aware of OSM by seeing the name at the
bottom-right of a completely different site that someone sent them to
because it was useful. Another indication of this is the number of
help questions that we see where people are having problems with "the
openstreetmap app" or "the site gives an error" (and that site clearly
isn't openstreetmap.org).
Best Regards,
Andy
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