Hi Stephen, Thanks for your support :)
Just to answer some points you made: Regarding historical maps, I agree, but there are more sources than the OSi, e.g. local councils and universities being the 2 major ones. Regarding the bus stops, I think someone looked at this before. Transport for Ireland likely have this data and if I recall they were willing to release it to us but there may have been some issue with the data. I stand open to correction this of course, but I think that may be why something like this was not imported. Others on this list may have a better memory of it. Dave On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Stephen Judge <stephenju...@gmail.com> wrote: > A > rgh, I sent my reply from the wrong email address. Sorry if this goes out > as a double post. > > Hi Dave, > > Personally I love this idea. I've only been doing some local editing of > areas I know using the iD OpenStreetMap editor. I found the tradition tools > like JOSM a bit to much of a learning curve and I don't have the time and > attention to read all of what's in the wiki to be a good mapper. I'd much > more welcome some mapping meetups to learn hands on from more experienced > mappers. > > I have recently been thinking about access to historical maps. The OSI has > good historical maps which have to be out of copyright by now but I don't > get the impression they are open to collaborating with OSM or giving us > access to those maps to use as tiles. It's a shame the only historical > tiles we seem to have of Ireland on OSM comes from a British University. > > I have also wanted to contact the likes of Dublin Bus to ask them for the > GPS locations of all their bus stops so we can map all of them with > accurate date such as bus stop number and routes served. They have to have > this GPS data because they are essentially overlaying this data on Google > Maps on there own website. I'd also like to see the Transport for Ireland > Journey Planner use our OSM maps rather than their maps, as their maps are > very low on detail. But in the end I felt these companies would probably > just ignore such a request from an individual. So an establish OSM Ireland > organisation would be perfect to act in this regard. > > All of the points you mentioned, I agree with and at the least it might be > worth meeting up either AFK or in IRC/Google Hangouts. I also think there > are great opportunities to collaborate with the other open data > organisations in Ireland and with Wikimedia Ireland > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Ireland_Community>. > > I am still quit new OSM editing and know nothing about the OSM Ireland > community so I am very interested to see how this develops. > > Regards, > Stephen Judge <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Stephen%20Judge> > > ___________________________ > Email: step...@stephen.ie > Web: www.stephen.ie > < > http://www.stephen.ie/?utm_source=http://www.stephen.ie&utm_medium=Email-Signature > > > OpenPGP: Public Key <http://pgp.stephenjudge.ie> > > > On 2 October 2014 13:00, <talk-ie-requ...@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > Send Talk-ie mailing list submissions to > > talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > talk-ie-requ...@openstreetmap.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > talk-ie-ow...@openstreetmap.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Talk-ie digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Formalising Openstreetmap Ireland into a proper body and > > becoming an official OSM Chapter (Dave Corley) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 13:37:25 +0100 > > From: Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> > > To: Discussion of Open Streetmap in Ireland > > <talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> > > Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] Formalising Openstreetmap Ireland into a proper > > body and becoming an official OSM Chapter > > Message-ID: > > <CAHwD_AFuvTtvfBKU-ha5= > > 9g9acmhq3tzzvbs+apdonajeu3...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > Hi all, > > > > Something I've been thinking about for a while now, is that we should > look > > to forming into a proper entity i.e. an official OpenStreetMap Ireland > > chapter of OSM. > > > > A few reasons off the top of my head why I'd like to push ahead with > this: > > > > - We will have representatives who can speak with authority to the press > if > > required. > > > > - The Open data / Open Government movement has been steadily growing over > > the last 18-24 months here. Every event I've been to, at some point, I've > > had to utter the line "well at the moment we are just a group of people > > editing on OSM, there is no "Openstreetmap Ireland". Given the volume of > > work and effort that people have put it, its embarrassing to say that > line. > > > > - When we go looking for maps and/or data we are an actual entity. That > > lends weight to any requests we make. The further we take this in > relation > > to what type of a body we are (non-incorporated, incorporated, recognised > > chapter of OSMF) > > > > - Further down the line, it opens up the possibility of getting funding > / > > sponsorship. As it stands right now, companies are unlikely to give any > > significant kind of donation to us, ever, as they can not write it off > as a > > donation because, essentially, we don't exist. I would like to > > > > - I would like to see us move up a gear in terms of organisation. What I > > mean by this is to take it to the next level in terms of meetup's, for > > example, a weekend meetup over a Sat & Sun in, say, Athlone (its central > > and is in need of some love mapwise) where a load of us would meetup, > > survey and map. Prior to going there though, we'd look for a local mapper > > who can get into schools or colleges with a few posters, get on to the > > local free paper to do a piece, chat to local radio etc to promote the > > event. > > > > - I would like to see us pushing more in the area of advocacy e.g. > > advocating for the use of OSM by local govt. and advocating for the > release > > of data held by local govt's (if they are using our maps, give us stuff > to > > make them better). > > > > - Finally, there is no reason, none whatsoever, why we shouldn't be able > to > > start organising our own State of the Map for Ireland. We have more than > > enough going on to fill 1-2 days worth of a conference but a major > > roadblock to this would be the sponsorship aspect. > > > > I've looked into what would be involved, and starting out, there will be > a > > body of work to be completed, but its by no means insurmountable. > > > > If there is generally positive feedback the next step would be to agree > how > > to proceed and what format of an organisation we should be come. > > > > I have some thoughts on all of that, but I'll hold off for a few days to > > see what the thoughts are on this proposal. > > > > Thanks, > > Dave (DaCor) > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-ie mailing list > > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of Talk-ie Digest, Vol 65, Issue 1 > > ************************************** > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie