Totally in favour of this. This is a great idea. Unincorporated Association should be fine. TOG is an Unincorporated association and it has lasers.
The only "openstreetmap world" body would be the openstreetmap foundation, and I think they'd rather local groups use local chapters, rather than get the osmf to do everything. So we can't just use them 😉 Rory On 2 October 2014 22:22:38 CEST, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> wrote: >Hi, > >I did state one con, that there's a bit of work involved ;) but other >than >that I don't see there being any con's to this (I stand open to >correction). > >> What's the benefit of having our own entity as opposed to proxying >behind >the general "OpenStreetMap world" entity ? > >I possibly didn't explain it very well. To "proxy" as you put it, we >have >to be a formal entity in the first place. > >The Local Chapter Agreement was kicked back into gear and recently >finalised. You can view the completed agreement here [1] > >This agreement, which would be signed by both our group and the OSMF >and >lends a weight of support behind us when we go to various govt. >agencies >looking for data and/or maps. > >> What exactly is required to get the legal organisation going ? A >treasurer >and a president ? A bank account ? Recurring paperwork ? A postal >address ? >Do we want to set up board elections ? Membership fees ? > >Essentially, all of the above and more. It breaks into a few phases, >first >to get the organisation going, then later the legal status, but I >wouldn't >see us getting to the legal recognition for at least the first 2 years >if >not more as there are a number of other things to be completed first. > >Personally, this is how I would see things going..... > >We would start out as an Unincorporated Association, the same as most >sports clubs basically. The bare minimum we would need is a >constitution >and a membership. More info here [2] > >At this point we would have the structure in place to go further. By >going >further, I mean drafting and agreeing Memorandum & Articles of >Association. >These would qualify us to put in a formal application to become an OSMF >chapter. There are a few other bits needed (accounts etc.), but those >are >the 2 big ones and the ones hardest to put together. I spoke with Simon >Poole this evening just to clarify this point and in his opinion once >we're >at this point in the process we would qualify to apply for local >chapter >status. > >As we have the work done (MoA & AoA) the next step would be to apply >for >charitable status under the definition of "other purposes beneficial to >the >community". There are a number of additional documents to be drawn up >in >addition to complete this, but the bulk will have been done at this >stage >from earlier activities. > >This would allow us to accept sponsorship for events (e.g. a company >sponsoring the food at a hackathon), hardware donations (servers), >donations in general etc. > >I hope this answers everything. If anyone else has any queries, feel >free >to share also. > >It would be good to hear more opinions on this, even if its just >something >as simple as "yeah this sound good" or "hate this idea" or etc. :) > >Thanks, >Dave > >1 - >http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/Agreement >2 - http://www.wheel.ie/content/unincorporated-bodies > > > >On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:05 PM, moltonel 3x Combo <molto...@gmail.com> >wrote: > >> On 01/10/2014, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Something I've been thinking about for a while now, is that we >should >> look >> > to forming into a proper entity i.e. an official OpenStreetMap >Ireland >> > chapter of OSM. >> > [...] >> >> You've only given a list of pros, so it's hard to disagree :p In >> general it sounds like a good idea. Some questions and potential >> concerns below: >> >> What's the benefit of having our own entity as opposed to proxying >> behind the general "OpenStreetMap world" entity ? >> >> What exactly is required to get the legal organisation going ? A >> treasurer and a president ? A bank account ? Recurring paperwork ? A >> postal address ? Do we want to set up board elections ? Membership >> fees ? I have a fair idea of what is needed for such an association >in >> France, but I don't know about Ireland. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ie mailing list >> Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie >> >_______________________________________________ >Talk-ie mailing list >Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie