We've always tagged non interstate freeways as motorways. They are often designed to interstate standards and there is literally no distinction between them and interstate freeways except that there's no interstate shield.
As for Floridaeditor's edits, I noticed him doing this awhile ago, but didn't really feel like doing anything. Glad someone is sending him and trying to get this resolved. Many of his downgrading from Trump to primary were completely unjustified. On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 11:57 AM Matthew Woehlke <mwoehlke.fl...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 28/09/2020 12.27, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 11:07 AM Matthew Woehlke wrote: > >> On 28/09/2020 11.42, Jack Burke wrote: > >>> I'm willing to bet that most OSM editors who drive on either of those > two > >>> will think "this is a great freeway, just with occasional traffic > >> signals." > >> > >> That's an oxymoron. Freeways are, by definition, limited access (no > >> crossing intersections, period) and do not have (permanent¹) signs or > >> signals to halt traffic. IMNSHO, if it has traffic lights, stop signs, > >> or the possibility of vehicles suddenly driving *across* the way, it > >> isn't a freeway. > > > > True, but highway=trunk can mean either expressways (think like freeways > > that have some or all at-grade intersections; note that having > > freeway-style ramps in between junctions doesn't make it a > > highway=motorway), or single-carriageway freeways. In both cases, they > > tend to get built as an incremental case to building a full motorway, but > > are not yet motorways. > > We're getting dangerously into the territory of words with ambiguous > meanings. Note https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/freeway, especially the > first definition. Note also my point was about "freeways", not > highway=trunk. Many in the US would consider "freeway" and > highway=motorway to be nearly synonymous. (The "nearly" is when we start > talking about non-interstate limited access.) > > I did later state that limited access is *not* a requirement for > highway=trunk. > > Also, Jack has clarified his usage as "artistic"... > > > That's not to say there aren't non-interstate highways that meet these > >> definitions. > >> > >> But... is it a highway=trunk? *I* don't see where the wiki excludes the > >> possibility. (It does, however, seem to me that only *actual* interstate > >> freeways should be highway=motorway in the US.) > > > > That's not true at all... > > Citation needed. I don't think that's been established (although we're > getting pretty off-topic...). The *converse*, sure (interstate =/> > motorway), I'll concede that. > > > [...] the transitions to where an interstate ends and it continues as > > another kind of highway past the last exit before a junction, > I would question whether those should be highway=motorway. (Yes, I'm > looking at https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/98245488 and surrounding, > possibly as far north as https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/41485037.) > > -- > Matthew > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >
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