On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:42 AM Jack Burke <burke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Monday, September 28, 2020, Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 8:35 PM Jack Burke <burke...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Recently, someone has taken it on himself to downgrade most (all?) >>> highway=trunk roads in the eastern U.S. to just primary. The odd >>> thing is that the very wiki page he cites as his reason fully supports >>> keeping them as trunk. Many of them I'm personally familiar with, and >>> even absent the wiki's definition, they actually make more sense as >>> trunk from a driving perspective. >> >> >> The wiki's pretty inconsistent but the generally accepted standard is >> "it'd be a motorway if it didn't have intersections" or "it'd be a motorway >> if it was dual carriageway". I think some context would help. >> > > How about a pair of highways that "would be motorways if they didn't have > intersections" for context? > > Georgia 400 is a grade-separated, divided, high-speed freeway from its > southern endpoint at I 85, all the way to where it meets GA 369 near Coal > Mountain, 37 miles later. From there, it's an at-grade, divided, high-speed > (mostly 65mph, with short sections of 55mph in denser areas) highway with > extremely long straight sections and other sections with high-speed curves, > until it ends at GA 60 just outside Dahlonega, 16 miles past Coal Mountain. > Yeah, not looking very hard at this so don't know if I missed any at-grade intersections looking at Maxar/Mapbox. I'd call that a motorway pretty solidly from I 85 to GA 306 and a trunk north of that to GA 60. Looks like it turns into GA 115 at GA 60, didn't trace that further but I'd call GA 60 a secondary. > GA 515 begins life where I 575 ends, at Ball Ground. From there, it is a > grade-separated, divided, high-speed (mostly 65mph, with a few sections of > 55mph, and a couple of 45mph when it passes through Ellijay and Blue Ridge) > freeway that travels north to Blue Ridge, almost at the Tennessee border, > where it arcs eastward and continues to Blairsville. That's 63 miles of > divided high-speed goodness. There it finally becomes an undivided highway > that continues on to Young Harris, "ending" a few miles past there. GA 515 > was upgraded to its dual-carriageway status about 30 years ago as part of > the Appalachian development highway program. > Looking at the same imagery as above, yeah, I'd call I 575 a trunk north of Howell Bridge Road and GA 515 a trunk from I 575 until the south end of Blue Ridge, where the single carriageway through town is primary (it stops being an expressway and becomes a boulevard for a bit), and then picks back up as trunk on the north end of town before going primary again at Blairsville. > All of these, and others, were highway=trunk until floridaeditor decided > to downgrade them (and challenge anyone to change them back) > So far it seems like floridaeditor is the exact opposite of NE2 (who smashed everything in network=US:US to highway=trunk even if it's not an expressway or super-two freeway, something we're *still* cleaning up particularly in the midwest and Texas). Given NE2 was also in Flordia, I wouldn't rule out it's the same person.
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