If I were you check out walmart.com. I think they do have some computers with windows 7 and if you choose refurbished like I did you will not get any crap ware loaded on it. In fact I have two desktop computers both have windows7 home premium on both of them as well and got both at Walmart online, one I got in 2012 was an HP DC58-50 with a 160 GB hard drive and the other one I got in April of 2014 it is a Dell, don't know the model number both of them work really good with window eyes. Both desktops are refurbished, from what I remember one was around 130 dollars and the other one was around 190 dollars. So thought I would help anyone else who needs some good suggestions.

On 2/25/2015 6:58 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
Thanks for telling me that you can get windows 7 in computers again.  I
will check.  I have an old vista laptop, but if I can find one with
windows 7 in it, I may just go ahead and replace it.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Don H via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 3:34 PM
To: David ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: which version of windows should I get

I bought a Windows 8.1 laptop two months ago and I find it very useable.
  Only issue I have are some focus issues but they are manageable for
the most part.  So if you can get a Windows 7 machine I would say buy it
but I think the fear of Windows 8 has been over blown.

On 2/25/2015 2:27 PM, David via Talk wrote:
Well, for your information, Windows 9 simply does not work at all.
Reason? It does not exist. Microsoft lost their abacus when they were to
release the next version after Windows 8.1, and hence found it much
easier to start from afresh, which means Windows 10.

Smiles.

Just wanted to clarify that one point. If you ever can get a Win7, I
would much recommend that - over the 8-series. I had so much trouble
with both Win8 and 8.1, that I parked that whole computer altogether.
Admittedly, that was with an earlier version of the screen reader as
well, so things seemingly have got much better as time moved on. But the
8-series do have their learning curve, and even sighted people
complained enough to have Microsoft partially change their mind. It all
depends on whether you want to pick up on that curve, or if you want to
go with something that is more in line with what you have been used to.
Besides, according to what I hear and read, the Win10 interface may
partially take you one step back to the feel of Win7. Since it is going
to be released in the not too far off future, maybe no need to hazzle
around learning the steep curve of Win8, only to find yourself having to
go back to a more familiar touch when Win10 is hitting the market. Just
some thoughts.

David

On 2/25/2015 5:24 PM, Bud Schwab via Talk wrote:
Hi Gang,

I am currently using windows 7 64 bit, but my computer is about to
fail on me and I am going to get a new one.  I'm familiar with windows
7 64 bit but don't even know if it's available any more on a new
computer.  My question is, of the versions of windows available today,
8, 9, and 10, is there one of them that works best with  windoweyes? I
have the latest version of wineyes. Thanks for any input.
Thanks.


Bud Schwab
W 6 Z Y P
Malibu, California

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